Ron’s New System

[bonzo75]

I am told, people with vinyl prefer the active crossover and do not perceive it as a loss of analog.

There are those who try to make their own horns and often take digital as the easy way out. Personally I have never heard a good digital crossover horn speaker with analog and I am not interested. It sounds integrated but there is always the magic and emotion missing, a bit dry.

even in non horn speakers generally you will find most are passive

 

[Kingrex]

Ron, I missed why your looking for a table? Won't this be a 3rd table in your room? Is there a hole your trying to fill?

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ron,

Having pushed this button with you numerous times in recent months it should come as no surprise.

Why don't you and Matej set up a review sample TT with shortlist of manufacturers to consider.

Unfortunately, Matej lives quite far from me.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ron, I missed why your looking for a table? Won't this be a 3rd table in your room? Is there a hole your trying to fill?

Please see Post #1,705, above.

 

[bonzo75]

No reason to succumb to peer pressure!

I happen to agree, all else being equal, with Kedar's (and Brad's and Peter's and Tim's, et al) simple circuit, first-order crossover, non-multi-way driver ethos.

neither of the others have a first order crossover. Brad has digital

 

[Al M.]

There are those who try to make their own horns and often take digital as the easy way out. Personally I have never heard a good digital crossover horn speaker with analog and I am not interested. It sounds integrated but there is always the magic and emotion missing, a bit dry.

even in non horn speakers generally you will find most are passive

Sounds a bit like digital room correction -- the easy way out. Rather than doing the hard work of getting the actual room acoustics right.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Brad has digital

I thought Brad has Odeons?

 

[bonzo75]

Sounds a bit like digital room correction -- the easy way out. Rather than doing the hard work of getting the actual room acoustics right.

partially. More of getting the actual drivers integrated and sounding right together

 

[bonzo75]

I thought Brad has Odeons?

he has ones that he is making too

 

[morricab]

No reason to succumb to peer pressure!

I happen to agree, all else being equal, with Kedar's (and Brad's and Peter's and Tim's, et al) simple circuit, first-order crossover, non-multi-way driver ethos.

WEEEELLLLLL... I have a second system, and although it is a two-way, high sensitivity horn speaker...it is also fully active . That being said, I went from a mini-DSP digital crossover to an analog crossover using an Accuphase F-15L. It didn't really improve digital but it made analog WAY better. System really sounds great now.

 

[morricab]

neither of the others have a first order crossover. Brad has digital

My Odeons are passive and my DIY setup is now analog active with Accuphase.

 

[bonzo75]

My Odeons are passive and my DIY setup is now analog active with Accuphase.

Yes I have heard two active accuphase horn set ups. One was the whole house horn, where the bass horn was incorporated in the house itself.

 

[rando]

Unfortunately, Matej lives quite far from me.

Yes.

There is also chance of any TT not currently distributed in NA becoming a long term loan for reasons beyond control by either party. Suspicions currently lie in that direction per manufacturer/remanufacturer. To act as front end for the only Pendragon in NA. Shopping for and swaying you in any direction is the least concern.

You're doing stellar with brand promotion for WBF. Multiple doors are open without needing further credential. Should you choose to use them.

 

[Kingrex]

Please see Post #1,705, above.

Ok, I get the not purchasing the AS-2000. But you have 2 tables already????? Why do you think you need a third? It seems your post was someone else can step in and get the AS-2000. Not that you now need something new.

 

[Alrainbow]

if you do buy a new table I highly sakora every time I’ve heard a table of there’s it’s analog magic very dynamic and clean.

 

[Lagonda]

Or Vyger?

I could see you with a nice VYGER with an extra armboard for a pivoted arm, stand included ! At a reasonable price too ! And you would make Ked happy !

 

[bonzo75]

I could see you with a nice VYGER with an extra armboard for a pivoted arm, stand included ! At a reasonable price too ! And you would make Ked happy !

for that he would need to get SETs horns

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ok, I get the not purchasing the AS-2000. But you have 2 tables already????? Why do you think you need a third? It seems your post was someone else can step in and get the AS-2000. Not that you now need something new.

I have only the vintage Denon turntable, with Hana SL cartridge.

 

[bonzo75]

At a reasonable price too !

Super expensive stickers in last few years have changed the concept of reasonable price, which should be TD124, Garrard

 

[Lagonda]

Super expensive stickers in last few years have changed the concept of reasonable price, which should be TD124, Garrard

Agreed, but still half of what he was willing to spend, with a custom made arm included !