Natural Sound

[morricab]

Sorry, why is leading edge always being interpreted as the hard edge purposefully added for attention? The discussion started w.r.t Al's report on roll off. A few seem to be taking the view that opposite of roll off and deemphasis is the hard emphasized leading edge

Obviously a component can go unnaturally the other direction but it is generally less egregious.

 

[Lampie519]

I think most engineers just don’t hear worth a damn. They design to specs...they hit them and say, “well done with that one”.

Then i am not one of those... i always try to improve my designs to get better audio results and measure only to check if what i hear is distortion and if so, it is within reasonable tolerances.

 

[tima]

i always try to improve my designs to get better audio results and measure only to check if what i hear is distortion and if so, it is within reasonable tolerances.

I don't know if this is a fair question... what counts as 'better audio results' ?

 

[Lampie519]

Then why are "tube rolling" if we do not hear any difference anyway?
If some can hear differences in cables etc.and claim that these sound better then others, then i can hear differences as well and can claim the same ;-)

Plus i do not even compare my stuff against commercial available equipment as i just can not do that if i have not had the chance to compare it. Funny though is that companies do that all the time (claiming to have the best out there not even having heard everything, and so do their followers).
So when i compare my stuff against something else i build i think i can make that statement LOL...

 

[Lampie519]

I don't know if this is a fair question... what counts as 'better audio results' ?

That is a fair question....
Let me answer this with some pictures and you do not even need to listen to the differences to understand ... LOL

I am just teasing , but i think i made my point...

 

[Al M.]

Then i am not one of those... i always try to improve my designs to get better audio results and measure only to check if what i hear is distortion and if so, it is within reasonable tolerances.

I think many designers do. Some of them are musicians, a number of them seem to be concert goers. I don't think the situation is that bad. You might still argue that at the end of the day some of them don't hear right, but that's a different story.

 

[Lampie519]

Some of them even admid that they never listen to other gear then their own (Rob Whatts stated that in an interview). That is why his filter works but his dac doesn’t... lol

 

[microstrip]

I don't know if this is a fair question... what counts as 'better audio results' ?

Are we allowed to debate it is this thread?

In very subjective matters, ranking always needs statistical analysis and an exact definition of the population being sampled.

 

[ddk]

That is a fair question....
Let me answer this with some pictures and you do not even need to listen to the differences to understand ... LOL

I am just teasing , but i think i made my point...

Both suck!

david

 

[Folsom]

Although one destroys by comparison...

 

[morricab]

Although one destroys by comparison...

Are you sure which one that will be??

 

[Folsom]

Are you sure which one that will be??

Depends on users whether it's both or not. But ya, those suitcase things etch records.

 

[marty]

Both suck!

david

Good one. And delivered in your usual laid back style! Ah, some things never get old.

 

[PeterA]

Both suck!

david

Didn’t realize they both have vacuum hold down.

 

[tima]

Let me answer this with some pictures and you do not even need to listen to the differences to understand ... LOL

I am just teasing , but i think i made my point...

My neanderthal sensibilities don't have a clue what you are trying to communicate wrt what counts as better audio results

 

[Lagonda]

My neanderthal sensibilities don't have a clue what you are trying to communicate wrt what counts as better audio results

Sometimes it just gets lost in translation ! The Dutch are known for their tulips, drugs and special sense of humor !

 

[pcosta]

Sometimes it just gets lost in translation ! The Dutch are known for their tulips, drugs and special sense of humor ! View attachment 79062

That's just plain old good advice.

 

[Lampie519]

It is in English, it is not even meant to be funny ....

 

[spiritofmusic]

Haha, I can't think of anything that so simply asks not to give offence, to basically offend so many who read it Lol.

 

[tima]

It is in English, it is not even meant to be funny ....

At least it asks you to dress.