Never heard wavac 833 sorryLooks nice! How does it compare sonically to Wavac 833?
Never heard wavac 833 sorryLooks nice! How does it compare sonically to Wavac 833?
Maybe Ron can loan you his Incito S?I am going to be hearing a few different preamps in my system very soon. The preamps I am curious about are the Aesthetix Callisto, Trafomatic Tara 30a and the VAC Statement. While I have already heard the VAC I find myself drawn back to it. While I am very happy with my current setup, it could do with a tube in the chain. To quote Ron Resnick, "...that is not a question! You MUST have at least one tube in the chain. Stop talking as though that is somehow in question!"
Meanwhile, I have second room accumulating extremely lightly used gear! At some point I will need to transition from the fun part of accumulating to the less exciting part of dealing with bargain hunters!
Not sure if this will be any help but Paragon in Ann Arbor handle Octave, Burmester and now Robert Koda. I only mention Burmester because Larry, owner of Paragon, has said that the 808 mk5 was the best ss preamp that he ever heard.I am very intrigued by it for sure! I just don't have an easy way to audition it.
Wow...Paragon looks after Robert Koda?Not sure if this will be any help but Paragon in Ann Arbor handle Octave, Burmester and now Robert Koda. I only mention Burmester because Larry, owner of Paragon, has said that the 808 mk5 was the best ss preamp that he ever heard.
YMMV
Side comment - FWIW and IME, the Lyras are significantly more coherent and resolving without fatigue compared to the decades old Arrakis. The challenge with the Lyras is bass articulation at higher SPLs. An interesting and likely fruitful experiment would be the Lyras rolled off at ~50Hz to columns of equal transparency and highly capable subwoofers that I'd surmise would outclass Arrakis in all areas.Fascinating. As a big fan of Gryphon who owned them for 12 consecutive years up to Mephisto up until moving to Robert Koda (another pure Class A beast), I could imagine how great the Apex is…it is the comparison to the Relentless that is a new data point for me. Again, fascinating to know.
And absolutely enthralled with each of his 3 choices for speakers. AG Trio possibly my choice for favorite speaker…other than the Rockport Arrakis. And I own XLFs!
I have heard exceptionally good things about Lyra including everything you have said above...and have been advised that the Lyras plus subtower would indeed be killer. I still wonder whether the full-on airdisplacement of the Arrakis still hold that one meaningful edge over the Lyras.Side comment - FWIW and IME, the Lyras are significantly more coherent and resolving without fatigue compared to the decades old Arrakis. The challenge with the Lyras is bass articulation at higher SPLs. An interesting and likely fruitful experiment would be the Lyras rolled off at ~50Hz to columns of equal transparency and highly capable subwoofers that I'd surmise would outclass Arrakis in all areas.
All this sounds correct to me.Side comment - FWIW and IME, the Lyras are significantly more coherent and resolving without fatigue compared to the decades old Arrakis. The challenge with the Lyras is bass articulation at higher SPLs. An interesting and likely fruitful experiment would be the Lyras rolled off at ~50Hz to columns of equal transparency and highly capable subwoofers that I'd surmise would outclass Arrakis in all areas.
New line for them.Wow...Paragon looks after Robert Koda?
The Lyras are excellent speakers IMO.I have heard exceptionally good things about Lyra including everything you have said above...and have been advised that the Lyras plus subtower would indeed be killer. I still wonder whether the full-on airdisplacement of the Arrakis still hold that one meaningful edge over the Lyras.
Fascinating to hear. Thank you for sharing that insight. As a huge fan of Rockport I have often thought of the Lyra but air displacement was the hold back…and perhaps based on your comment for me, that has been the right decision. The only possibility was having an exceptionally well designed and well set up subtower which I have discussed with Rockport years ago.The Lyras are excellent speakers IMO.
The biggest benefit from any extra - large speaker is scale possible via as you said, full - on air displacement (there are other variables but driver quantity is primary IME). As an example, my Spirits with subs play at a larger scale versus Lyras especially at higher SPLs, however, the Lyras have the benefit of higher resolution.
He has an enclosed rack (kind of in the wall) with only cables coming out, how is he going to have such tubes there?Any chance you might hear the Nat Magnetostat?
Its a preamp...He has an enclosed rack (kind of in the wall) with only cables coming out, how is he going to have such tubes there?
Oh yes magnetostat - I just saw amp thread, mind registered Magma.Its a preamp...
In 2018 or 19 I had written post one my visits on linking and ivestigating Soulution preamp. During that Soulution eval I had also met a guy with Nat Magma, who was using Soulution preamp because it is better than the NAT Magnetostat he had before.Any chance you might hear the Nat Magnetostat?
Just A thought..
Is the speaker set optimized in room to perfection?
I would imagine that this must be A smart move IF not already done.
Stirling Trayle comes to mind .. His site…
(Rockport use him for setup of their Lyra )
Choosing the perfect amp must be A lot easier if the room speakers and acoustics Are superb..
He's running a different system in a different room, I'm unsure why your data point should be relevant.In 2018 or 19 I had written post one my visits on linking and ivestigating Soulution preamp. During that Soulution eval I had also met a guy with Nat Magma, who was using Soulution preamp because it is better than the NAT Magnetostat he had before.
Indeed.You partially have a point here. However, optimizing for speaker positioning may be dependent on the electronic gear. Ideally, you might want to re-optimize speaker positioning for each amp tested.
Indeed.
Also, having an Expert in this craft/skill show you how its done in your own listening room with what you already have makes for an immensely usefull new skill for continuing the journey further…
I seem to think that at this point in it, the journey, this is an option worth checking out
The price level of stuff here mentioned is quite insane.
Cool, but - strategy you can then shurely also afford.
My 2 cents..
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