Hopkins' System

[DasguteOhr]

Thanks, but sensitivity is too low for my amp.

For party you need 50 watt high impedance not lower then 5 ohms.
Tube friendly
Mesurements

no impedance peaks in the important area (no ringing). amazing bass performance for the size. the hybrid tweeter dome tweeter 2. 5khz to 15khz, ribbon 15khz to 30khz. Resolution potential is gigantic.

 

[D.Duttilleux]

Why didn’t you just get a pair of LV speakers?

The first LV Auditoriums are basically nothing more than veneered 104s with a pedestal + blu tack:

 

[D.Duttilleux]

if you want to hear something really good from dali then the dali epicon 6. amazing good speaker.
New a bargain at this price here

Dali Epicon 6 Schwarz HG - Standlautsprecher, Paar | Auspackware, wie, 5.555,00 €

DALI EPICON 6 Die EPICON 6 ist DALIs neuer Referenzlautsprecher Kaum auf dem Markt, äußerte sich die HiFi-Fachpresse rundum begeistert Chefredakteur Wilfrie

www.md-sound.de

Hmmm... not really.
The magic is in the C17s.

 

[hopkins]

The first LV Auditoriums are basically nothing more than veneered 104s with a pedestal + blu tack:

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Thanks for the picture - I was wondering about this. The dealer made it sound like the pedestal was something much more elaborate!

 

[morricab]

The first LV Auditoriums are basically nothing more than veneered 104s with a pedestal + blu tack:

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You serious? Where did that info come from?

 

[hopkins]

You serious? Where did that info come from?

Have you heard the DALI 104? Though I cannot compare them directly, the similarity in sound signature - judging from memory while I sit listening to the same playlist - is striking. On vocal tracks, for example, I am really getting the same impression of « natural sound ». I am not claiming they will sound as dynamic or resolved as the higher LV models, but I can definitely see the similarity.

Anyway, it is going to be fun tweaking them…

The ECDesigns powerDAC-SX is definitely a very versatile piece of equipment and plays effortlessly with these speakers - the amp’s sound is very hard to criticize - hard to explain…this is something you can only get a sense of by exploring its use with a variety of speakers (and headphones).

 

[DasguteOhr]

Hmmm... not really.

Yes..listen to it

The magic is in the C17s.

True

Vifa C17WH-

 

[D.Duttilleux]

You serious? Where did that info come from?

From various sources, including statements by Kevin Scott himself and Troels Gravesen.

 

[D.Duttilleux]

Yes..listen to it

True

Vifa C17WH-

Virtually all Dali speakers from around 2000 onwards leave me cold.
Too much complexity, high-end aspirations, and (as a result) a lack of ability to communicate the soul of the music.
It's that quest for (measurable) technical perfection at the expense of the essence.

 

[D.Duttilleux]

Have you heard the DALI 104?

We own samples of every revision, except for the very first mk1 generations > Denmark only.

 

[hopkins]

We own samples of every revision, except for the very first mk1 generations > Denmark only.

I was asking Morricab

 

[D.Duttilleux]

Whatsbest?

It depends on what you're looking for: mind/ratio versus experience.

I.o.w. 'can you feel it'?

 

[D.Duttilleux]

I was asking Morricab

I know

 

[hopkins]

Here’s the crossover of the Dali 104



2nd order filiter (12db slope)

 

[morricab]

Here’s the crossover of the Dali 104

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2nd order filiter (12db slope)

Electrolytic cap…yuck!

 

[hopkins]

Electrolytic cap…yuck!

I have seen worse at a higher price, I did forget to mention that I will be changing it. This is what I am contemplating:
- recabling
- new tweeter and crossover
- cabinet rigidity

Nothing revolutionary, there are a number of online discussions about Dali 104 modifications.

 

[Holmz]

Here’s the crossover of the Dali 104

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2nd order filiter (12db slope)

Sort of makes one wander how the many thousand $ speaker cables help.

 

[hopkins]

 

[DasguteOhr]

Here’s the crossover of the Dali 104

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2nd order filiter (12db slope)

Looks simlar to my old keilidh xover befor i pimped it.
My tip build extern housing for the xover before i done that speakers need 60 watt 92db /1watt after that i drive it 20 watt tube amp that thin coils eats energy.
Before

After

 

[hopkins]

One one speaker, I changed the internal wires, installed bitumen on the inner walls, removed some of the damping material, and changed one of the coils (as I happened to have a better one). Am very pleased with the sound. My girlfriend spontaneously commented that the sound was very nice

I will upgrade the other components as I found all the specs.