Hey mep....Wallflowers

Phelonious Ponk

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I can't remember what thread this came up in, so I made a new one. I just listened again, to that Wallflowers first record, specifically to "One Headlight." That was the first radio song, if anything will be heavily compressed, that's it.

First I listened to it by itself. The signature bass line that establishes to song is pretty punchy, but then when the organ and the guitar come in, they're at pretty much the same volume. Could be "loudness," or just the mix. It's a radio hit from 1996, so I can't imagine that it's not compressed. What tells me it's not severe is two things -- 1) the chorus kicks in at a noticably higher level (or at least a perceived one), and 2) when I switch back and forth between this song and songs I know are not victims of the loudness wars, it doesn't sound like I kicked up the volume knob with the transition. Does it have a lot of dynamics? Nothing dramatic, no, But overall, it is not noticeably "louder" than old, pre-loudness wars recordings.

Songs used for comparison -- original, non-remastered CDs (on my HD, of course) -- Dianna Krall "Deed I Do" from "Live in Paris. Steely Dan's "Show Biz Kids" from "Countdown to Ecstasy" and "Laughing" from David Crosby's "If I Could Only Remember My Name."

Give it another listen if you still like the music. There are no dramatic dynamics there - in that song anyway - but its not obnoxiously loud at all,

Tim
 
Tim-So would you classify this album has having very limited dynamic range?
 
Tim-So would you classify this album has having very limited dynamic range?

Checking against one song, maybe. But frankly, mep, a LOT of popular music has very limited dynamic range, including most of the old school analog "wall of sound" stuff produced by Phil Spector, The majority of The Beatles catalog, Springsteen's iconic Born to Run....the list is long. Compressors have been around for a long time, and so has the desire to "pop" from the radio. From my POV, dynamic range in pop/rock recordings isn't as much of an issue as loudness, which results in congestion and, in extreme cases, distortion. This song is not a particularly loud recording, as far as I can tell, and actually has a lot of space, a distinct lack of congestion in everything but the chorus. YMMV.

Tim
 

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