You can add Ayon DACs, cd players and servers to that list of resolved yet emotional. The current crop are delta sigma and are reportedly very good...I only have experience with the R2R players from the early 2010s (using BB PCM1704 chips). Simply superb.Not all ladder DACs are the same. TotalDAC and Aries Cerat carry much more emotion than MSB, which is an excellent audiophile DAC , delivering the audiophile vocabulary in spades, along with great detail retrieval and with a very musical sonic signature.
But MSB can't match TotalDAC or Aries Cerat for emotional engagement.
Bricasti DAC sounds great on Zu (because of Zu's great, rich tonality), but again, I dont' trust them with their R2R implementation , as they have been a sigma delta company for a long time. I think they just threw the R2R feature in there for audiophiles to play with, just like they have 10 or so different filters for people to drive themselves crazy with.
Also, the MBL reference DAC , which is delta sigma, carries much more emotion than MSB. So , again, can't really generalize.
you are more likely to get an exhaustive answer on the DiyAudio forum or other pro digital forumsDear experts,
Could you please help me understand how significant in NOS R2R designs the temperature drift factor is? What products employ the most effective compensation mechanisms?
Is Lampi not doing the same thing, and adding additional flavoring in the tube selection ? At a much elevated price of course !Schiit has, for a few years, been tweaking the output circuit in both the Yggy and Gumby to achieve a particular flavor of sound... A supposedly analog sound, thus the "Analog 2" upgrade offered originally which merely tuned the output stage. Now they've decided to offer up multiple Yggys, each with a different DAC chip in order to obtain improved measurements. They got reamed in Stereophile a few years ago for poor measurements that revealed apparent problems with the digital circuitry at the time. And they have now apparently responded with a pick your poison solution. One DAC, three entirely different converter chip options, one of which they claim now measures quite well. Odd, in my opinion. Certainly unheard of.
Bet I can guess who said that!If it matters - I spoke with one of the designers a while ago (name not important and I know them personally a few) and his approach was (and this still kind of rings in my head) - give me whichever DAC you want (R2R, Delta Sigma) and I'll make it sing in a way I want to..
Why not (within the three) why not Atlantic TRP instead of Baltic 3? And have you heard the B3 along side SW1X? I'm not going to consider Holo, but I am considering Lampi B3 or Atl TRP, SW1X III basic. The problem (at least for me) is, that I see hardly any information on the Lampi site for the internal electronics. Why so intentionally vague?The three DACs I will choose among -- Lampizator Baltic3, Holo May KTE and SW1X DAC II are all R2R, I believe.
Yes, important, but what about caps and resistors, chokes, etc.? These are huge in the general architecture as well.Although the DAC methodology is just one aspect of performance, I believe it to be very important. My preference is for R2R. Also very important is the filtering, where I prefer no digital filter with just a simple analog filter.
Obviously the output stage and power supplies are also critical.
Good luck with your search Ron!
Why not (within the three) why not Atlantic TRP instead of Baltic 3? And have you heard the B3 along side SW1X? I'm not going to consider Holo, but I am considering Lampi B3 or Atl TRP, SW1X III basic. The problem (at least for me) is, that I see hardly any information on the Lampi site for the internal electronics. Why so intentionally vague?
I own 2 DACs with this chipset (Kinergetics Research KCD-55 Ultra and a PS Audio DAC). The Kinergetics actually has 2 of these awesome modules. Both DACs sound very good and organic despite having SS output stages (I am a tube guy so...).
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