Critical Mass Systems Center Stage 2M footers

[scot]

Hi everyone

This question is aimed at Steve Williams or anyone else who may know the answer.

I’m a big fan of the Center Stage 2 footers. My dealer told me that they were not really designed to be used under speakers or turntables. I also understand Joe came out with the LS versions specifically designed for speakers. Are any of the Center Stage footers designed to go under a turntable? Thank you.

Best regards
Scot

 

[Addicted to hifi]

Wouldn’t hurt to try them under any component.

 

[Steve Williams]

Hi everyone

This question is aimed at Steve Williams or anyone else who may know the answer.

I’m a big fan of the Center Stage 2 footers. My dealer told me that they were not really designed to be used under speakers or turntables. I also understand Joe came out with the LS versions specifically designed for speakers. Are any of the Center Stage footers designed to go under a turntable? Thank you.

Best regards
Scot

I’m only seeing this . Yes the LS series is for under speakers. However to date there is not a center stage footer designed for under turntables. I do know Joe talked about it with me several months so never say never

 

[scot]

Hi Steve

I was just wondering, are the new Center Stage 2M (for under regular electronic) out yet and are they shipping? Thank you.

Best regards
Scot

 

[Steve Williams]

They’ve been shipping for the past 2 months

 

[Huy Hoang]

Hi Dr. Joe & Mr. Steve, I'm a big fan of Center Stage 2 footers.
Currently I'm setting up my new audio rack and going to fit all of my equipments with CS2M.
So could you please help me to give your advice about the following questions:
* Question 1: Can I use CS2M 1.5 with these equipments and which is the size will give the best effect result?
- L10 preamp (20kg)
- L10 power supply (23kg)
- MSB Select 2 DAC unit (11kg)
- MSB Monobase unit (20kg)
* Question 2 for Mr. @Steve Williams : Could you share your experience about where is the best position to place CS2M 1.5 under Taiko Extreme?
Thank you very much for your help.

 

[Steve Williams]

I would use at the very least CS2M size 1.0 under all mentioned products however I have to tell you that more and more users have gone to size 1.5" under units of this weight with extraordinary great results. I would not use 0.8's under your mentioned gear

As for placement under the Extreme I use CS2M size 1.5 just inside all four stock feet and moved as far forward in the front and as far backward in the rear so that the feet are just under the edge of the bottom

 

[Steve Williams]

Hi Dr. Joe & Mr. Steve, I'm a big fan of Center Stage 2 footers.
Currently I'm setting up my new audio rack and going to fit all of my equipments with CS2M.
So could you please help me to give your advice about the following questions:
* Question 1: Can I use CS2M 1.5 with these equipments and which is the size will give the best effect result?
- L10 preamp (20kg)
- L10 power supply (23kg)
- MSB Select 2 DAC unit (11kg)
- MSB Monobase unit (20kg)
* Question 2 for Mr. @Steve Williams : Could you share your experience about which is the best position to place CS2M 1.5 under Taiko Extreme?
Thank you very much for your help.

there are 3 sizes of CS2M
0.8"
1.0
1.5

The size refers to the height of the footer

 

[Huy Hoang]

I would use at the very least CS2M size 1.0 under all mentioned products however I have to tell you that more and more users have gone to size 1.5" under units of this weight with extraordinary great results. I would not use 0.8's under your mentioned gear

As for placement under the Extreme I use CS2M size 1.5 just inside all four stock feet and moved as far forward in the front and as far backward in the rear so that the feet are just under the edge of the bottom

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Thank you for your advice.
One more question sir, what is the priority between the main unit and the power supplier to place the CS2M 1st?

 

[Steve Williams]

I did power supplies last in my system

I usually recommend that the user start at the the source and work outwards to the amps and then finally the power supplies

 

[mageak]

howdy just got a set of cms 2m .8 for my ayon streamer dac s10 but they are to small. is it ok to take the feet off and use cms without the unit keeping its own feet

 

[Steve Williams]

Yes. As long as no loose nuts are left inside the chassis to vibrate. The 1.0’s were originally designed to mitigate this problem. Will your dealer swap out your 0.8’s for 1.0’s

 

[mageak]

he didnt have any in stock and said for a source component. .8 is ok. the unit is 12kg

the feet were screwed using an allen key screw into the chassis so no internal nuts to worry about.

all done now. time to break them in. i dont need to play music do i just time is the key?

 

[Steve Williams]

yes you absolutely have to play music for them to settle

 

[mageak]

ok thanks

 

[mageak]

do i have to be using ayon for music or could i use another source and have ayon off for the burn in to be effective. ie tv or heos via marantz

 

[mageak]

just ayon has tubes and i dont want to leave it on over night

 

[Steve Williams]

I am all tubes as well. Play music for at least 8 hours per day at normal listening levels

 

[microstrip]

I am all tubes as well. Play music for at least 8 hours per day at normal listening levels

You should have a large stock of 6h30's ...

 

[tarquineous]

he didnt have any in stock and said for a source component. .8 is ok. the unit is 12kg

the feet were screwed using an allen key screw into the chassis so no internal nuts to worry about.

all done now. time to break them in. i dont need to play music do i just time is the key?

I suggest try both sizes and listen. You should know within 30 minutes to an hour which sounds better. You can always repeat the comparison the next day if you so desire. You do not have to wait for break-in or settling. Vibration and weight will settle them in. You can accelerate the process or use fairly loud music (for a miniscule improvement). Be wise but not crazy with break in methods. Like I mentioned, you will know right away if the footers are right, assuming you can hear the difference. Compare with other footers and be mindful that the platform or shelf material affects the outcome almost as much as the footers.