Cerious Tech Lumniscate Cables

[PYP]

I have had in my system over the years a dozen or more "name brand" digital cables from Audience to AQ to Cardas to Shunyata to Nordost and there is simply nothing at all like Lumniscate. In a league of its own to be sure! Nice to hear fellow Cerious customers giving Bob a shout out! He sure deserves it based on what he's been able to invent and bring to market at "reasonable" prices.

I see that the Lumniscate uses silver ribbons. Kubala-Sosna (manufacturer of the cables I use) says that the material of the conductor doesn't govern the sound, rather it is the overall design that provides the sound signature. I will note that all of their cables use copper. But I haven't had good luck with silver-based power cords or ICs. Admittedly, that was a long time ago.

Of course, the only way to find out is an in-home demo.

 

[KrellFan1]

Of course, the only way to find out is an in-home demo.

I agree of course that the only way one can know for sure is to try in one’s own home. In the case of Cerious Lumniscate, I think the game changer and “neutralizing agent” is in his use of Liquid Graphene as described on the website, as below:

• Vacuum injected Aqueous Graphene achieves Atomic Damping at the molecular level
• Each positive conductor employs a central backbone of custom Large Crystal 18-gauge 6N Pure Silver, surrounded by 48,000 strands of Carbon Fiber, which is surrounded by a web structure comprised of 38-gauge Silver conductors and flooded with vacuum injected Aqueous Graphene

I would imagine that if you emailed or called the professor he would be more than happy to share his knowledge and respond to any questions or concerns you might have. I think the man knows metal about as well as anyone I’ve ever met and of course he’s got the credentials given that he taught Physics and metallurgy at university level.

 

[rgrost]

I see that the Lumniscate uses silver ribbons. Kubala-Sosna (manufacturer of the cables I use) says that the material of the conductor doesn't govern the sound, rather it is the overall design that provides the sound signature. I will note that all of their cables use copper. But I haven't had good luck with silver-based power cords or ICs. Admittedly, that was a long time ago.

Of course, the only way to find out is an in-home demo.

Hello, Bob from Cerious Technologies. We are a COMPOSITE conductor cable manufacturer. Meaning that yes we do use Silver Ribbons in our cables, specifically in the - negatives of cables - combined with Copper, Silver wire of multiple gauges and conductor shapes, Graphene and our own proprietary Liquid ceramic. Would we use Silver ribbons in all conductors (+ and -) solely as a conductor? No. The science of composites is to combine materials utilizing the BEST Qualities of each material and combine them in a way that minimalizes the negative qualities of each, resulting in a finished product that surpasses the sum of the parts. You cannot properly terminate Graphene into a connector, so we use pure Silver as a backbone that serves as an interface that will be robust and sonically invisible (at least as close as we can get).We use Silver because it has the lowest resistance (Still outpaced by Graphene) and complements the Sonic elements of Graphene, which is unequaled Transparency. We use Pure Silver connectors for our interconnect and low level cables, as we have found that terminating identical materials together results in the purest connections. In our speaker cables and power cords we use connectors of high purity copper that is DIRECTLY Gold plated. For these high power cords we have an additional backbone of copper that we use as the termination interface to connectors. Before the final termination we strip off the plating on the inside of the connector so we get a pure copper to copper connection. I, of course, agree that an in home trial is best and we offer 100% Money back if not delighted. This is easy for us because we never have a piece of Graphene Lumniscate come back (return rate less than 0.02%...that is 1 in every 500 sold...).

 

[KrellFan1]

We are a COMPOSITE conductor cable manufacturer. Meaning that yes we do use Silver Ribbons in our cables, specifically in the - negatives of cables - combined with Copper, Silver wire of multiple gauges and conductor shapes, Graphene and our own proprietary Liquid ceramic. Would we use Silver ribbons in all conductors (+ and -) solely as a conductor? No. The science of composites is to combine materials utilizing the BEST Qualities of each material and combine them in a way that minimalizes the negative qualities of each, resulting in a finished product that surpasses the sum of the parts.

WOW! Thank you @rgrost for this VERY detailed line site into the complex nature of how exactly it is you approach the manufacture of your cables ; I certainly learned a lot by this explanation and no doubt will prove illuminating for those like @PYP who also wonder how it is you create the magic in your Lumniscate cables. I harken back to the old Hollies song, "Just One Look." For me personally it took "Just One listen."

 

[PYP]

Hello, Bob from Cerious Technologies. We are a COMPOSITE conductor cable manufacturer. Meaning that yes we do use Silver Ribbons in our cables, specifically in the - negatives of cables - combined with Copper, Silver wire of multiple gauges and conductor shapes, Graphene and our own proprietary Liquid ceramic. Would we use Silver ribbons in all conductors (+ and -) solely as a conductor? No. The science of composites is to combine materials utilizing the BEST Qualities of each material and combine them in a way that minimalizes the negative qualities of each, resulting in a finished product that surpasses the sum of the parts. You cannot properly terminate Graphene into a connector, so we use pure Silver as a backbone that serves as an interface that will be robust and sonically invisible (at least as close as we can get).We use Silver because it has the lowest resistance (Still outpaced by Graphene) and complements the Sonic elements of Graphene, which is unequaled Transparency. We use Pure Silver connectors for our interconnect and low level cables, as we have found that terminating identical materials together results in the purest connections. In our speaker cables and power cords we use connectors of high purity copper that is DIRECTLY Gold plated. For these high power cords we have an additional backbone of copper that we use as the termination interface to connectors. Before the final termination we strip off the plating on the inside of the connector so we get a pure copper to copper connection. I, of course, agree that an in home trial is best and we offer 100% Money back if not delighted. This is easy for us because we never have a piece of Graphene Lumniscate come back (return rate less than 0.02%...that is 1 in every 500 sold...).

Thank you for the explanation. So, the graphene and the silver work together as a very large conductor?

Do you publish measurements such as capacitance for your ICS? While that is of interest, only a demo tells the whole story. Glad you offer a trial period.