I also found the search (especially for tracks) absolutely abysmal up to Version 1.5
But in 1.6, the search is (sometimes tiresomely) slow but the results are MUCH better than before.
Don't you agree?
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But in 1.6, the search is (sometimes tiresomely) slow but the results are MUCH better than before.
Don't you agree?
I much prefer Roon above other Mac based players for sound quality. I haven't tried HQ Player, as I don't need all the filtering and up sampling bloat.
Searching in Roon is pretty good, and if you have your own NAS library, it finds the same album on Tidal or Qobuz as other versions. Often those versions are higher res as in 24 bit 44.1 (Qobuz) or 16 bit 96K (Tidal). And some of the remasters on 24 bit are superb, such as Kraftwerk Computer Love.
Searching in Roon is pretty good, and if you have your own NAS library, it finds the same album on Tidal or Qobuz as other versions. Often those versions are higher res as in 24 bit 44.1 (Qobuz) or 16 bit 96K (Tidal). And some of the remasters on 24 bit are superb, such as Kraftwerk Computer Love.
Yes but with the word "somewhat" substituted for the word "MUCH." Another fault it shares with Google is the inclusion, along with the appropriate results, of results which presume that I misspelled the search term.I also found the search (especially for tracks) absolutely abysmal up to Version 1.5
But in 1.6, the search is (sometimes tiresomely) slow but the results are MUCH better than before.
Don't you agree?
I'm a little mystified-- my typical metal state when it comes to this labrinth of digital audio. It sounds like you're suggesting not using a server for digital audio? Don't you need some form of cpu to run the player software? Sorry, for the simplistic question.
My Lampi Pacific dac uses an ethernet renderer, so I go straight ethernet from my switch to the dac. I have a Nucleus + server also connected to the switch and powered by linear power from the same dedicated line other components are on.
As per your suggestion, to take the Server noise out of the system, I thought I would try the Server from another dedicated line I have. However this still places the Server in close physical proximity to other components.
So, ideally I suppose, I could run yet another dedicated line to an outlet 30+ feet away and, connect the Server there, and run a long ethernet to the Switch.
You don't need to employ filters to get exemplary sound (above Roon) with HQPlayer. But if you want to set them along with upsampling, conversion and dither you can set it and forget it and enjoy even more...
No, I do not. It is still tiresomely slow (I often give up) and the results are no better. Tagging and album identification seem a bit better but that is really hard to assess as it depends on what the new files are.I also found the search (especially for tracks) absolutely abysmal up to Version 1.5
But in 1.6, the search is (sometimes tiresomely) slow but the results are MUCH better than before.
Don't you agree?
It seems to be related to Tidal / Qobuz integration, if you sign out of those it's lightning fast.
It's definitely not CPU related. It's just the way they run the search now. Before, Tidal/Qobuz were integrated in the searches too, but Roon would immediately display the results of your library search. Now, it waits until it has all the info before displaying anything. That's why we have to sit for a minute or two until it decides it has enough info to display something. And the most puzzling thing, you can only opt to have Roon search only your library AFTER it has attempted to do a full search, including Tidal/Qobuz, NOT before or during!
Oh yes, Roon is like that. And do not even think to tell them that maybe this is not the most logical thing.
Yes, that is too true. In addition, there is no option to search only Tidal/Qobuz, afaik.
I still remember the year I had a subscription to Roon, not if this will have changed, but you did a search by composer and returned all the albums without ordering by title. If, as in my case, you had 300 Mozart albums and you wanted to choose a symphony, you could not move quickly to the letter S, but you had to look at all the albums screen by screen. Ridiculous, I requested several times in the Roon forum that a Sort be made about the result and a person from Roon replied that they would study if that would be good for the application.
I don't find Roon search slow, it is almost instant here. That is one non classical titles though. I think all the players struggle with classical, partly as the naming convention was inconsistent across recordings. And of course, you can have 200+ versions of Beethoven's 5th.
I like Roons display, it shows the album in your library, the Tidal and Qobuz versions as well on clicking the icon. There is usually a good review or summary of the album, and you can cross link to other albums perfumed by one of the artists on the first, so dig out new material. The lyrics is a cheesy feature, but is useful non the less. And you can see what resolution it is playing at, the signal path, if you use EQ etc.
Roon for me is the best player.
I like Roons display, it shows the album in your library, the Tidal and Qobuz versions as well on clicking the icon. There is usually a good review or summary of the album, and you can cross link to other albums perfumed by one of the artists on the first, so dig out new material. The lyrics is a cheesy feature, but is useful non the less. And you can see what resolution it is playing at, the signal path, if you use EQ etc.
Roon for me is the best player.
It is quite fast most of the time but far from that at others.
It is inconsistent with Qobuz. Today, I searched for Fauré 's Requiem and Roon found the 6 in my collection with one of them duplicated on Qobuz. Direct search on Qobuz found.....dozens.
I wouldn't worry too much. It is annoying, but Roon is updated constantly. The integration aspect and third part hook such as Qobuz will improve. Roon has massive resources and high user base, it can only further dominate, and will improve. If I was looking at a new server, it would have to run Roon Core.
Audiophile Optimizer 3.0 review.
Once again AudioPhil’s magical Pixie Dust sprinkled on the AudiophileOptimizer 3.0 General Availability will uplift any Windows computer audio to a new high.
Phil’s dedication and attention to details has taken the computer audio community through the staged of betas which got better with each release, the final release of AO 3.0 is definitely a several steps above the last beta (38).
After listening into the early hours of the morning was so gratifying that you got deeply involved in the music, it was like being there, whether a studio or live performance.
This is what I hear in my system with AO 3.0.
The enunciation of the vocals sound so clear you hear every word without missing any of the “spoken word”.
Imaging/coherence/convergence of the instruments, plus a wider soundstage is jaw dropping.
The kick a$$ bass in Dobie Gray’s Drift Away track had me repeating the track, because it was such a pleasure to hear over and over.
Patti LaBelle If you Only Knew track with the percussion's and finite details is something to behold.
The Brook Benton rendition of Rainy Night in Georgia by Conway Twitty and Sam Moore put the icing on the AO 3.0 cake for me last night.
This is truly a magic carpet ride with AO 3.0
https://www.highend-audiopc.com/
Once again AudioPhil’s magical Pixie Dust sprinkled on the AudiophileOptimizer 3.0 General Availability will uplift any Windows computer audio to a new high.
Phil’s dedication and attention to details has taken the computer audio community through the staged of betas which got better with each release, the final release of AO 3.0 is definitely a several steps above the last beta (38).
After listening into the early hours of the morning was so gratifying that you got deeply involved in the music, it was like being there, whether a studio or live performance.
This is what I hear in my system with AO 3.0.
The enunciation of the vocals sound so clear you hear every word without missing any of the “spoken word”.
Imaging/coherence/convergence of the instruments, plus a wider soundstage is jaw dropping.
The kick a$$ bass in Dobie Gray’s Drift Away track had me repeating the track, because it was such a pleasure to hear over and over.
Patti LaBelle If you Only Knew track with the percussion's and finite details is something to behold.
The Brook Benton rendition of Rainy Night in Georgia by Conway Twitty and Sam Moore put the icing on the AO 3.0 cake for me last night.
This is truly a magic carpet ride with AO 3.0
https://www.highend-audiopc.com/
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