QSA LANEDRI Series

As for why I shared the Audiogon thread here: the discussions there, including the skeptical ones, offer valuable opportunities to learn. From what I read, all the posts—even the strongest critical replies—address ideas, not people, and I respect that

Looks like the Audiogon mods deleted some of the personal vitroil , though some attacks remain. But hey if you are all good with the thread that's all that matters. In the interim of establishing testing it might be worthwhile to take a step back and see how to better address what is characterized as marketing fluff & skepticism, your background and that of the technology guys so as to possibly avoid the hit parade. Best of luck
 
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Thanks, that helps. And just to be clear, I’m not hunting for another magical burn-in milestone. I’m only trying to understand whether those small shifts are normal after burn-in, simply as part of how Veridion reacts to changing upstream noise (upstream noise isn’t constant).

Anas has mentioned a few times that upstream matters most , for example, that improvements “flow downstream,” that the router often has the largest impact, and that cables show short “residual effects” when swapped. Taken together, it seems reasonable that Veridion may make upstream micro-variations more audible, rather than this being additional burn-in.

I promise I’m not trying to win any “Most Questions Asked in One Thread” awards. :)
I used to have such shifts but after getting a top notch DC blocker day and time does not matter at all.
 
I bought a QSA power strip and used it for a week. In the switch and dac, I still feel that plugging directly into the wall outlet provides better dynamics, density, and soundstage. Although the QSA power strip improves clarity, it sacrifices these three aspects. However, when the optical modem is plugged into the QSA, the overall performance becomes smoother and clearer, with no loss of dynamics.
You are describing what I have heard in the first week. In my system it's a 6 week burn in.
 
I used to have such shifts but after getting a top notch DC blocker day and time does not matter at all.
Thanks @Jeff4598 that’s interesting, I looked up your Veridion setup and especially your note about how much adding the second power strip increased performance. In your case it sounds like DC noise was the dominant variable, and once that was handled things stabilised.

In my case I’m looking mainly at Veridion in a streaming network, where upstream noise is more dynamic than with CD playback. So the question I’m exploring is whether the small shifts some users hear even after burn-in might simply reflect changing upstream noise conditions becoming more audible with Veridion, rather than extended burn-in itself.

Different signal paths, but possibly the same principle ; remove the biggest source of noise and the system behaviour becomes more stable.
 
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I used to have such shifts but after getting a top notch DC blocker day and time does not matter at all.

Which DC blocker are you using? I have bad power causes a lot of hum. Discovery power strip of course can’t fix this issue. I ended up with an inakustik one fed by discovery power strip and cable.

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Interestingly, I sold my Inakustic 4500P Power Conditioner for the QSA Lanedri Power Strip and am very happy with the results and the extra money in my pocket. :)
 
Hi Anas,

If someone had, say, 3 or 4 Discovery Veridion power strips and wanted to daisy chain them together, would it be best to insert the components in Discovery power strip 1, or Discovery power strip 4?

Wall outlet > power strip 1 > power strip 2 > power strip 3 > power strip 4 > audio gear > speakers.
 
Hi Anas,

If someone had, say, 3 or 4 Discovery Veridion power strips and wanted to daisy chain them together, would it be best to insert the components in Discovery power strip 1, or Discovery power strip 4?

Wall outlet > power strip 1 > power strip 2 > power strip 3 > power strip 4 > audio gear > speakers.
Hi Blake,

Power strip 4 will have the highest cumulative impacts.
 
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Hi Anas,

If someone had, say, 3 or 4 Discovery Veridion power strips and wanted to daisy chain them together, would it be best to insert the components in Discovery power strip 1, or Discovery power strip 4?

Wall outlet > power strip 1 > power strip 2 > power strip 3 > power strip 4 > audio gear > speakers.
Power strip 4 will have the highest cumulative impacts.

If 1 strip is good and 2 are better, then 4 strips with 20 unplugged Discovery PCs should basically open a wormhole to Redbook nirvana. :cool:

if you plug in 6 Discovery PCs into the sockets, even if those Discovery PCs aren't all connected to components, there is a mass grounding effect that occurs just by having those PCs plugged in that benefits SQ.
 
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If 1 strip is good and 2 are better, then 4 strips with 20 unplugged Discovery PCs should basically open a wormhole to Redbook nirvana. :cool:

We pushed the experiment to an extreme configuration using eight parallel 4/0 AWG cables, each comprising more than 10,000 strands. The magnitude of the impacts continued to increase with no sign of diminishing returns.
 
Has anyone considered taking a couple of Ethernet cables and using it as speaker cables just for fun?
Would re-terminating or altering the cable revert it to original character?
 
Hi Anas,

Since we’re talking treated conductors, I have a quick clarification about the Discovery power strips. Is the Veridion treatment applied only to the 15 ft? cable itself (including the plug), or does it also extend to the six outlets in the strip and the short connecting leads, or two or three internal brass strips, if present?
 
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Hi Anas,

Since we’re talking treated conductors, I have a quick clarification about the Discovery power strips. Is the Veridion treatment applied only to the 15 ft? cable itself (including the plug), or does it also extend to the six outlets in the strip and the short connecting leads, or two or three internal brass strips, if present?
Veridion is applied to all conductors.
 
Thanks, all the way for best result. I don’t know why but i got confused about powerstrip cord length, it is 6ft.
We opted for the 6 ft cable because sourcing the 15 ft version has been challenging. To preserve performance, the Veridion treatment was increased to compensate for the reduced length.
 
We opted for the 6 ft cable because sourcing the 15 ft version has been challenging. To preserve performance, the Veridion treatment was increased to compensate for the reduced length.
Hi Anas,

Thanks for clarifying that the Veridion treatment was increased on the 6 ft strip to maintain the same performance as the preferred 15 ft version.

If I understand correctly, this suggests the treatment can be applied at different intensities depending on conductor length. Does this mean that, in principle, a shorter cable with heavier treatment can reach the same performance as a longer cable with lighter treatment?

I keep asking because every new Veridion insight feels like discovering a hidden layer in the music :D Just trying to understand the scalability aspect of Veridion.
 
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Hi Anas, Thanks for clarifying that the Veridion treatment was increased on the 6 ft strip to maintain the same performance as the preferred 15 ft version. If I understand correctly, this suggests the treatment can be applied at different intensities depending on conductor length. Does this mean that, in principle, a shorter cable with heavier treatment can reach the same performance as a longer cable with lighter treatment? I keep asking because every new Veridion insight feels like discovering a hidden layer in the music :D Just trying to understand the scalability aspect of Veridion.

The amount of conductors and the intensity of the Veridion treatment are the main factors that differentiate the four series in the commercial catalog.
 
The amount of conductors and the intensity of the Veridion treatment are the main factors that differentiate the four series in the commercial catalog.
Just to clarify, my questions were focused exclusively on Veridion and the Discovery series ( the basic home-use “Veridionized” cables).I understand that the higher-end series have more conductors and a higher intensity of treatment, with additional benefits that Discovery doesn’t provide, which is perfectly fine.

One related thing I’ve wondered: you’ve mentioned that DC cables are more sensitive to EMI/RF, so keeping them short is beneficial. In cases where a DC cable must be longer, like the Gamma @ 90 cm., additional Veridion treatment can compensate, or is the length itself always a limiting factor?
 
One related thing I’ve wondered: you’ve mentioned that DC cables are more sensitive to EMI/RF, so keeping them short is beneficial. In cases where a DC cable must be longer, like the Gamma @ 90 cm., additional Veridion treatment can compensate, or is the length itself always a limiting factor?

I’m unable to provide more details at this stage. Any further explanation would open new questions, and we must maintain confidentiality while the patent process is underway.
 

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