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[bonzo75]

Please don't mention sea lions

 

[Mike Lavigne]

would you mind showing me evidence of any negative thing any sea lion has ever done to you?

Report suggests killing sea lions feeding on WA’s endangered salmon

A new state report says the booming population of seals and sea lions is likely impeding salmon recovery efforts. Lethal intervention is under discussion.

www.seattletimes.com

 

[spiritofmusic]

Talking sea lions, I'll argue against that concept all day long.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

the reason Sea Lions have multiplied like rabbits is that Orca population has diminished so much.

i've been on a Whale Watching boat and observed a pod of Orca's playing around with a Sea Lion carcass. they actually throw it in the air. Sea Lions can weigh 2000 pounds or more.

yikes!

Orca's are the ultimate predator in nature.

 

[A-Line]

I've seen debates on certain hifi forums so ridiculous that go well beyond having to show a mountain of imperical evidence coupled multiple double blind controlled studies.

One such debate involving power amps that devolved down to why the electromagnetic field created around a kitchen toaster when plugged in & in use interferes with the performance of the nearby refrigerator...

Whenever I post a comment I usually state that it's my opinion. I'm not a EE, nor am I troll looking to create arguments or chaos.

Hifi forums are for those who want to share their ideas/opinions of hifi components and/or music.
Hobbies are supposed to be fun too.

Just my opinions.

 

[Elliot G.]

THe audio Industry/hobby doesn't have a sense of humor particularly when it comes to product opinions. The forums are no different, People are intensely protective of their beliefs and change, well that doesn't happen often,
Sorry no offense meant to anyone.
We still have the same discussions today that we had 50 years ago and IMO nothing is different but the names of the fighters.

 

[Synaxis]

I've seen debates on certain hifi forums so ridiculous that go well beyond having to show a mountain of imperical evidence coupled multiple double blind controlled studies.

One such debate involving power amps that devolved down to why the electromagnetic field created around a kitchen toaster when plugged in & in use interferes with the performance of the nearby refrigerator...

Whenever I post a comment I usually state that it's my opinion. I'm not a EE, nor am I troll looking to create arguments or chaos.

Hifi forums are for those who want to share their ideas/opinions of hifi components and/or music.
Hobbies are supposed to be fun too.

Just my opinions.

I am 100% guilty in partaking in online conversations that have devolved. And I admit in some cases I contributed to it devolving.

I reached a point where (I'd like to think at least) I finally realized many people don't want to have open discussion - they just want to vent their life's anger and argue for the mere sake of arguing, and put people down to make themselves feel better.

I used to personalize it but I'm working on focusing on taking the higher road and just focusing on keeping audio discussion what they should be - FUN.

I've reached a point where they just don't bother me and I just don't care what they say or think.

 

[A-Line]

THe audio Industry/hobby doesn't have a sense of humor particularly when it comes to product opinions. The forums are no different, People are intensely protective of their beliefs and change, well that doesn't happen often,
Sorry no offense meant to anyone.
We still have the same discussions today that we had 50 years ago and IMO nothing is different but the names of the fighters.

This is true.

 

[PeterA]

We still have the same discussions today that we had 50 years ago and IMO nothing is different but the names of the fighters.

1974. I wasn’t paying a lot of attention 50 years ago, but I’m not sure if we were debating analog versus digital, or fancy power cords, or specialty footers. Were people even discussing black backgrounds and pinpoint imaging?

I think the tone on WBF was even different 10 years ago.

 

[bonzo75]

Wow what a serious way to revive an old funny thread.

 

[Elliot G.]

Wow what a serious way to revive an old funny thread.

Nothing ever changes and the same people here do the same things all the time that is funny LOL

 

[PeterA]

Wow what a serious way to revive an old funny thread.

I’m trying to figure out who the WBF sea lion is and why the guy refers to either the woman or the sea lion as “dude”.

 

[Another Johnson]

1974. I wasn’t paying a lot of attention 50 years ago, but I’m not sure if we were debating analog versus digital, or fancy power cords, or specialty footers. Were people even discussing black backgrounds and pinpoint imaging?

I think the tone on WBF was even different 10 years ago.

In 1974, digital was just a glimmer in the eye of a few pioneers. Pants suits and shiny glitz were the rage for disco. KLH, AR, Boston Acoustics, Klipsch … ah the memories. Gordon Gow was happy to see solid state firmly displacing the audio engineers’ nemesis (tubes). WZJ was setting the industry back by insisting on using tubes. Julian Hirsch was measuring everything and pronouncing it to be good. Harvey Rosenberg was sitting at Julius Futterman’s knee, but probably already answering his phone with “You are speaking to the voice of god.”

In other words, the participants in this hobby have been a bit nutty for a long time. The names change, but the personalities do not.

 

[A-Line]

In 1974, digital was just a glimmer in the eye of a few pioneers. Pants suits and shiny glitz were the rage for disco. KLH, AR, Boston Acoustics, Klipsch … ah the memories. Gordon Gow was happy to see solid state firmly displacing the audio engineers’ nemesis (tubes). WZJ was setting the industry back by insisting on using tubes. Julian Hirsch was measuring everything and pronouncing it to be good. Harvey Rosenberg was sitting at Julius Futterman’s knee, but probably already answering his phone with “You are speaking to the voice of god.”

In other words, the participants in this hobby have been a bit nutty for a long time. The names change, but the personalities do not.

I wonder if anyone still owns Julius Futterman OTL amplifiers?
That stack looked like something that Dr.Frankenstein might have used in his lab to bring his monster to life...lol

 

[PeterA]

In 1974, digital was just a glimmer in the eye of a few pioneers. Pants suits and shiny glitz were the rage for disco. KLH, AR, Boston Acoustics, Klipsch … ah the memories. Gordon Gow was happy to see solid state firmly displacing the audio engineers’ nemesis (tubes). WZJ was setting the industry back by insisting on using tubes. Julian Hirsch was measuring everything and pronouncing it to be good. Harvey Rosenberg was sitting at Julius Futterman’s knee, but probably already answering his phone with “You are speaking to the voice of god.”

In other words, the participants in this hobby have been a bit nutty for a long time. The names change, but the personalities do not.

I suppose so, but my point was that the subjects being debated were different from what we debate here now, namely, analog, versus digital, and a plethora of audio accessories from fancy power cords to conditioners and footers. Even vocabulary like black backgrounds and pinpoint imaging were not used then.

 

[Another Johnson]

I suppose so, but my point was that the subjects being debated were different from what we debate here now, namely, analog, versus digital, and a plethora of audio accessories from fancy power cords to conditioners and footers. Even vocabulary like black backgrounds and pinpoint imaging were not used then.

Yes. I understood.
I started in the hobby around 1960ish. In those pre digital years, most of the discussion seemed to center around speakers and phono cartridges. It was a given that records were better than cassettes, and that your source (the cartridge) and speakers were where you would hear the differences. No one thought that power cords were a playground. Cables were shielded or unshielded. Turntables had rumble, wow and flutter. Simpler times. Easy answers. RTR was the best, though too expensive for all but the most serious.

No forums. Discussions were face to face. Much more civilized.

 

[Elliot G.]

No forums. Discussions were face to face. Much more civilized.

You could not be more correct. This is a issue with society not just the audio industry. Audio then was very cooperative and fun. There was genuine curiousity and cooperation. Audio shows were a blast and we all encouraged the others. IMO the internet has done serious harm to almost every thing it touched. Yes I am old but I saw all the great bands and was at all the incredible Chicago Audio Shows and the ones in Vegas shared with the Porn Industry

 

[PeterA]

I would never own my current stereo system or have my record collection were it not for the internet. I remember visiting brick and mortar stores in Boston, New York and Seattle. A few were less than friendly especially when my budget was not very high.

 

[Synaxis]

I would never own my current stereo system or have my record collection were it not for the internet. I remember visiting brick and mortar stores in Boston, New York and Seattle. A few were less than friendly especially when my budget was not very high.

I used to go into Goodwin's decades ago. I don't think there was a single thing in there I could afford. LOL

 

[andromedaaudio]

Musical enjoyment is not dependant on budget