Videos of Acoustically-Coupled Audio Recordings

[morricab]

Not that thus video is a duplicate of what actually plays in the room either, but I am sure it was done with professional equipment, not with a phone. Makes all the difference.

As I said in another thread…I think there is plenty to get from videos when recorded to a higher standard than a smart phone.

 

[morricab]

That is interesting, and a lot of people. I wonder. If so, why do all those people you think have videos not post them here?

Isn’t it obvious?

 

[morricab]

I prefer the 2nd track, the Rachmaninov, as a test, organ not my thing tho..

The system does everything at the same level…reference.

 

[bonzo75]

That is interesting, and a lot of people. I wonder. If so, why do all those people you think have videos not post them here?

they played it back to themselves and decided it does not sound as good as the ones on here

 

[PeterA]

Isn’t it obvious?

It is not obvious to me. I don’t understand why anyone would make a video unless it is used for communication or as a data base or reference to mark progress.

 

[RCanelas]

Which speakers are playing (small or large) ?
I'd be curious to know how the rest of the room is shaped. The location of the speakers as is seems challenging...
What does the system sound like to you ? What do you like about it ? What can be improved ?

I'm playing the larger, the Cassia.

The room is otherwise normally shaped, alas this wall is curved and the only one where we can park the system, as this is our living room. All of this while our listening room isn't ready. It's around 40sqr meters, front wall is highly absorbent and diffusive as it is clad in books floor to ceiling.
There are a few high q peaks and valleys that are handled by the active part of the system, while still keeping a clean crossover region, phase wise.

I design these so it would be awkward for me to go any deeper and attempt a description. Even posting the video is weird enough, I don't want it to be viewed as free publicity here, but the mood in this thread is chilled so I'm playing along

 

[morricab]

It is not obvious to me. I don’t understand why anyone would make a video unless it is used for communication or as a data base or reference to mark progress.

That's a lot different than sharing with the whole world. Many people are quite sensitive to the opinions of others.

 

[Al M.]

That's a lot different than sharing with the whole world. Many people are quite sensitive to the opinions of others.

...based on worthless phone videos.

I have never made a phone recording of my system and plan to never do that, but I gladly welcome feedback on my system from in-person visitors, which has happened countless times over the years and has often been very instructive.

 

[matthias]

...based on worthless phone videos.

Even simple phone videos can be precious tools for comparisons of slight variations of basically the same set-up of your system. Differences of cables, footers, different burn-in times etc. can be easliy heard through phone videos.
That doesn't mean that a phone video is able to show your system in its full glory
But phone videos are far from worthless.......

Matt

 

[andromedaaudio]

I m planning to upload some content of the munich show .
I m planning to make vids this time of set ups that don t sound good to me as well , for discussion sake after the show .

Ps plus i hope to be uploading my new ( smaller /cheaper ) speaker design sound by the end of the summer as well .

 

[Al M.]

Even simple phone videos can be precious tools for comparisons of slight variations of basically the same set-up of your system. Differences of cables, footers, different burn-in times etc. can be easliy heard through phone videos.
That doesn't mean that a phone video is able to show your system in its full glory
But phone videos are far from worthless.......

Matt

That has always been my point as well. If you just change things within a system, and keep recording conditions the same, then you may hear worthwhile differences over a phone video. Especially when it comes to more raw changes, for example, when a new component alters the tonal balance. It's a tool for *relative* assessment, even though still a rather blunt one.

But when it comes to *absolute* assessment of sound quality, phone videos are worthless. And when then people "compare different systems" over phone videos, it quickly devolves into crazy town.

 

[PeterA]

Even simple phone videos can be precious tools for comparisons of slight variations of basically the same set-up of your system. Differences of cables, footers, different burn-in times etc. can be easliy heard through phone videos.
That doesn't mean that a phone video is able to show your system in its full glory
But phone videos are far from worthless.......

Matt

Matt, thank you for this opinion. It’s nice to see that someone other than Bonzo, me, and very few others share the same opinion. The canard is that the naysayers think we are trying to represent the sound as the same as we hear it in the room and no one has ever claimed that.

 

[matthias]

Matt, thank you for this opinion. It’s nice to see that someone other than Bonzo, me, and very few others share the same opinion. The canard is that the naysayers think we are trying to represent the sound as the same as we hear it in the room and no one has ever claimed that.

Peter,
we are not alone.
There is a very lively swedish audio forum with a thread over 250 pages where members share clips with others about differences of their set-up.

Matt

 

[bonzo75]

Peter,
we are not alone.
There is a very lively swedish audio forum with a thread over 250 pages where members share clips with others about differences of their set-up.

Matt

there is a large Vietnamese group which shares excellent recordings, including on digital and SS amps. I have a local Vietnamese contact whom I check my impressions with as he has heard many of these in room and it is quite accurate.

here are two Goldmund systems, one good, one bad, both SS, digital set up better than tape though different recordings

Th?y Anh Ph?m Quân ??ng “Carmen “ em c?ng ké ? | By Nguy?n Quy Duong | Facebook

Th?y Anh Ph?m Quân ??ng “Carmen “ em c?ng ké ?

fb.watch

 

[morricab]

Even simple phone videos can be precious tools for comparisons of slight variations of basically the same set-up of your system. Differences of cables, footers, different burn-in times etc. can be easliy heard through phone videos.
That doesn't mean that a phone video is able to show your system in its full glory
But phone videos are far from worthless.......

Matt

And better quality ones can give a fair taste of what it sounded like in the room.

 

[Al M.]

there is a large Vietnamese group which shares excellent recordings, including on digital and SS amps. I have a local Vietnamese contact whom I check my impressions with as he has heard many of these in room and it is quite accurate.

here are two Goldmund systems, one good, one bad, both SS, digital set up better than tape though different recordings

Th?y Anh Ph?m Quân ??ng “Carmen “ em c?ng ké ? | By Nguy?n Quy Duong | Facebook

Th?y Anh Ph?m Quân ??ng “Carmen “ em c?ng ké ?

fb.watch

Facebook video Carmen sounds sort of decent.

YouTube "Night on Bare Mountain":

Bright 'n' shiny sound. Unpleasant and unnatural. But who knows how that video is recorded. System comparisons questionable.

Again noticeable difference between video sound on Youtube direct and the WBF embedded one.

 

[bonzo75]

Facebook video Carmen sounds sort of decent.

YouTube "Night on Bare Mountain":

Bright 'n' shiny sound. Unpleasant and unnatural. But who knows how that video is recorded. System comparisons questionable.

Again noticeable difference between video sound on Youtube direct and the WBF embedded one.

this observation was made many years back and sensibles have been playing on YT.

 

[tima]

they played it back to themselves and decided it does not sound as good as the ones on here

I assume this is meant to be satire.

 

[tima]

there are some positives here but why are you playing a Telarc organ LP as your first track to introduce the system and then writing in your post what it cannot do due to the bass cutoff? Please play some vocals, violin, piano, concertos, orchestra, jazz, blues, rock

Not meant as an introduction. I had the D-minor Tocatta & Fugue already recorded because I like the music, so it seemed appropriate in the thread. Sent a pm.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Even simple phone videos can be precious tools for comparisons of slight variations of basically the same set-up of your system. Differences of cables, footers, different burn-in times etc. can be easliy heard through phone videos.

Peter A: Matt, thank you for this opinion. It’s nice to see that someone other than Bonzo, me, and very few others share the same opinion.

Peter, I'm not understanding matthias' point that if you change one, and only one, thing in one's own system, video recordings can reveal the difference as headline news. Matthias' point, at least in this post, is limited to a very narrow scenario.

Even I agree with this use of videos. Please see my Post #181, above:

"2) I agree that if only one thing in a system changes, and if everything else is held constant, then a before video and an after video may reveal a difference in sound due to that change."