The best Dipoles, Dipoles that can do bass?

[Addicted to hifi]

What planers can do horns can not. Two very different sounding speakers

 

[infinitely baffled]

IMHO no full range planar can get anywhere near the dynamics, volume levels and chest thumping bass approached by the best dance club systems.

AG Trios with three bass horns can approach it.

Large Wilson's can do an OK job too. Most people are probably unaware of how loud Wilson's can go without apparent stress.

You've experienced Grande Utopias, i seem to remember?

 

[infinitely baffled]

Every review on the 30.7s has being outstanding .

I've read two reviews of the 30.7 and each time they only played classical music to assess them.

I would dearly love to hear some sorted Apogees. Of all the design's championed on this thread, their appeal endures

 

[Addicted to hifi]

I've read two reviews of the 30.7 and each time they only played classical music to assess them.

I would dearly love to hear some sorted Apogees. Of all the design's championed on this thread, their appeal endures

Than you haven’t seen the review which he played the police and he says the dynamics are very good.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

Apogees we’re good in there days and out dated now.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

I had a chance to buy a pair of scintilla for 2 grand.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

In all honesty the magnapan 30.7s are in a class of there own.I am very proud to own them.

 

[Zero000]

I had a chance to buy a pair of scintilla for 2 grand.

Chances are they'd be an absolute disaster and candidates for nothing apart from an extensive rebuild.

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A decent pair of Divas. Starting at $118K.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

Chances are they'd be an absolute disaster and candidates for nothing apart from an extensive rebuild.

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A decent pair of Divas. Starting at $118K.

No these were mint and a trade in.the owner traded them in on a pair of klipsch cornwalls because the Apogees kept blowing his amplifier up.very low impedance.

 

[infinitely baffled]

IMHO no full range planar can get anywhere near the dynamics, volume levels and chest thumping bass approached by the best dance club systems.

I really must have you over sometime.
Regrettably I've been keeping visitors at arm's length until my 2160 arrives.
However it might not do any harm to get a baseline measurement for future reference.
Plus i may be moving, and i daresay it will take a few years to get the new location tamed. Or even built from scratch, as is the current aspiration

Than you haven’t seen the review which he played the police and he says the dynamics are very good.

The police.. I think we are talking different languages.


For the avoidance of doubt i'm searching for dipoles that can do justice to trap music, like AJ Tracey:

Or deep house, like this:

And most definitely drum and bass like Thievery Corporation:

Hip hop

And arguably my favourite tune. A classic from LTJ Bukem's early 90's set.
Half the melody is sub 25hz. I've just had a first listen via my fuuga and it sounds astonishing. Turns out I do finally have the correct cartridge for drum and bass

 

[infinitely baffled]

Chances are they'd be an absolute disaster and candidates for nothing apart from an extensive rebuild.

Apogee Acoustics • View topic - 2020 THE ALL NEW APOGEE ACOUSTICS DIVA ADVANCE 9

www.apogeeacoustics.com

A decent pair of Divas. Starting at $118K.

Fuck a doodle doo. Turns out i can still be caught off guard by speaker prices.
I had the idea that a graz or henk rebuilt version ran to somewhere round £25k?
Guess I'd lowered my price expectations too far

Thanks for the link. Going to settle in and read that now.
I had been tempted by some big used Nolas, but we shall see....

 

[Zero000]

Fuck a doodle doo. Turns out i can still be caught off guard by speaker prices.
I had the idea that a graz or henk rebuilt version ran to somewhere round £25k?

That's a good pair in the link

But yes $25K should get you something pretty decent.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

I really must have you over sometime.
Regrettably I've been keeping visitors at arm's length until my 2160 arrives.
However it might not do any harm to get a baseline measurement for future reference.
Plus i may be moving, and i daresay it will take a few years to get the new location tamed. Or even built from scratch, as is the current aspiration




The police.. I think we are talking different languages.


For the avoidance of doubt i'm searching for dipoles that can do justice to trap music, like AJ Tracey:

Or deep house, like this:

And most definitely drum and bass like Thievery Corporation:

Hip hop

And arguably my favourite tune. A classic from LTJ Bukem's early 90's set.
Half the melody is sub 25hz. I've just had a first listen via my fuuga and it sounds astonishing. Turns out I do finally have the correct cartridge for drum and bass

I’m sure you have heard the pop group police from the 80s.

 

[bonzo75]

Fuck a doodle doo. Turns out i can still be caught off guard by speaker prices.
I had the idea that a graz or henk rebuilt version ran to somewhere round £25k?
Guess I'd lowered my price expectations too far

Thanks for the link. Going to settle in and read that now.
I had been tempted by some big used Nolas, but we shall see....

The diva is only 12k euro from Henk.. full range is 18. Additionally you could add other caps etc and cost will go up a bit more. His grands are what you are looking for the price you will have to negotiate it will be much higher as almost no grands available and his is extremely awesome

 

[infinitely baffled]

That's a good pair in the link

But yes $25K should get you something pretty decent.

And for something with bass as good as yours?

 

[infinitely baffled]

The diva is only 12k euro from Henk.. full range is 18. Additionally you could add other caps etc and cost will go up a bit more. His grands are what you are looking for the price you will have to negotiate it will be much higher as almost no grands available and his is extremely awesome

As the man most responsible for putting apogee on my radar
(Ok Justin's video with the blue light hitting his was pretty awesome)
what do you make of the Diva Advance 9 ?

I like the single power amp requirement.
I mean, i like that a lot, due to my unique situation
(all in on something that takes me three years to save for)

The amplifier requirements in the Advance9 link read like my signature.

 

[Zero000]

And for something with bass as good as yours?

I think the issue you will have is volume capability.

Whilst I run mine loudly you must bear in mind club levels ain't gonna happen.

I've lost track of what mine cost. They are more an experiment than anything else.

It's easily less than £25K though

 

[infinitely baffled]

I think the issue you will have is volume capability.

Whilst I run mine loudly you must bear in mind club levels ain't gonna happen.

Does that also apply to the 9's?
Which would just leave Henk's amp-hungry Grands, i guess?
Ked goes quiet when i ask him to remind me how many stereo power amps required, iirc three?
So nine years' saving just for the power amps. Gulp

 

[infinitely baffled]

The diva is only 12k euro from Henk.. full range is 18. Additionally you could add other caps etc and cost will go up a bit more. His grands are what you are looking for the price you will have to negotiate it will be much higher as almost no grands available and his is extremely awesome

Can you offer a ballpark figure for the Grands?
And forgive my leaky memory tank, its two or three power amps required?. Or was it two full range and a third only for the treble, which i guess could be less powerful?

If its two 2160's i need, i will have to try very hard to persuade Boulder to rebuild my 2060 chassis as a second 2160. That's always been at the back of my mind, behind the door marked 'apogee'.

 

[Zero000]

Diva will play more loudly than Duettas. But some have reverted back to Duettas after Divas as Duetta has more prominent bass and is more dynamic according to many accounts.

I reckon a well made, expensive Diva should easily beat Duettas. So much is in the build WRT performance that comparisons are lame. Very lame.

Grands will give you cone bass and higher volume capability again. They are just so much hassle, though, and I think they are impractical in extremis.

And so is the A9. Just look at the weight! A lot easier on amp requirements, though. Would love to hear a pair.

If you want a pair build to a spec, not to a price. You want as a minimum insanely rigid stands rising well up the rear of the speaker, bolted into an aluminium internal frame, with composite bass clamps. And external crossovers with top spec components.