Extending loudspeaker LF response

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I came across a new product from CS Port. It is a two-way electronic crossover with a shelving equalizer to extend the LF response. This gave me an idea. My speakers start to roll off at around 40Hz in my room, according to the measurements with REW. I am using an Accuphase F25 three way electronic crossover. The tweeters are Acapella plasma drivers from 7kHz, the mids are 4" beryllium field coil compression drivers from Classic Audio, and the bass are 15" field coil units from Supravox in ported cabs from 500Hz downwards. I did some research and found an equalizer made by Heritage Audio, designed for mastering. It has what they call an asymptotic Eq function, basically a shelving EQ that can boost or cut at certain frequencies. It also has 2nd order high pass and low pass filters, and a mid/side function to mono the bass when cutting LPs.
It is quite reasonably priced (when compared to Hi Fi stuff) and I can use it for my own recordings too. But most of the time, it will serve to extend the bass response of my speakers.
I inserted it in front of my bass amplifier and started conservatively, setting the shelf at 20Hz, raising it by 6dB. The results were a bit unexpected and quite positive. I have only listened for about two hours so far. I first played the last movement of the Saint-Saens Organ Symphony, on the AP Ultratape. The lower notes from the organ reached deeper and I could feel more of the vibration, which was to be expected. What was unexpected was that there was more clarity, with the instruments of the orchestra sounding better defined. There is a bypass function and so I can do A/B comparison quite easily. I am not sure whether this is a placebo effect, but I suspect the better LF extension changed the balance of the ambiance information, giving a better presentation of the recorded space. I then listened to a tape of the DGG stereo Mravinsky Tchaikovsky 6th (copied from the Melodiya archives) and had a similar impression, even though there was no very low frequencies from the organ. This is very interesting and I will be exploring with different types of music.
 

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Purists in this hobby (of which I am one) decry tone controls. I certainly don't advocate Lafayette Radio-style tone controls.

But if modification of the stereo system's frequency curve allows an audiophile to achieve his/her hobby objective* then I say go for it. If I'm being honest I have to concede that woofer-cooking is a form of tone control.

So enjoy that bass boost!

*Three of the four primary objectives of high-end audio countenance manipulation to taste of the frequency response curve.
 
Purists in this hobby (of which I am one) decry tone controls. I certainly don't advocate Lafayette Radio-style tone controls.

But if modification of the stereo system's frequency curve allows an audiophile to achieve his/her hobby objective* then I say go for it. If I'm being honest I have to concede that woofer-cooking is a form of tone control.

So enjoy that bass boost!

*Three of the four primary objectives of high-end audio countenance manipulation to taste of the frequency response curve.
I am certainly no purist, but this is not tone control as far as I am concerned as it addresses a deficiency of my system.
 
There is a bypass function and so I can do A/B comparison quite easily.

Being a bit suspicious of the transparency such boxes posses, i would really like to know how the bypass function is realised. Does it bypass the entirety of the box or just the frequency dependent blocks?

No idea how steep your crossover slopes are, but crossing at 500Hz means the driver has an appreciable contribution at much higher frequencies and transparency in that range is really important.

But if it works for you, that's all that matters.
 
Being a bit suspicious of the transparency such boxes posses, i would really like to know how the bypass function is realised. Does it bypass the entirety of the box or just the frequency dependent blocks?

No idea how steep your crossover slopes are, but crossing at 500Hz means the driver has an appreciable contribution at much higher frequencies and transparency in that range is really important.

But if it works for you, that's all that matters.
I don’t think transparency matters as much below 500Hz. I use 24dB slope on my crossover.
I believe the bypass is a relay switch that goes from the input to the output.
 
This may be just a matter of semantics but it seems to me that the CSPort box does not extend LF response but, rather, the "ACN200 uses a CR filter to boost the low frequency range." Their own graphs show the ultimate roll-off slope below the boost is not changed.

(FWIW, the Linkwitz Transform can actually extend LF response although for sealed boxes only.)
 
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This is very interesting and I will be exploring with different types of music.

Hello

I use a very similar box with my subwoofers and use dsp in my other system. Q2 @ 26 Hz +6dB. It has a 20Hz high pass to help protect the woofers from over excursions. It really helps to fill the bottom end in when it's there. Adds no bloom or boom. I have been surprised a number of times with unexpected LF content in some music. Have fun!

Rob :)
 
Purists in this hobby (of which I am one) decry tone controls. I certainly don't advocate Lafayette Radio-style tone controls.

Hello

Never understood the prejudice as the recordings we listen to are typically laced with it. If used judiciously this type of EQ can really add to both system accuracy and enjoyment.

Rob :)
 
I am certainly no purist, but this is not tone control as far as I am concerned as it addresses a deficiency of my system.
I agree. :)
 
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Hello

Never understood the prejudice as the recordings we listen to are typically laced with it. If used judiciously this type of EQ can really add to both system accuracy and enjoyment.

Rob :)

Decades lasting prejudice against wisely applied EQ - both for the entire system and on top of that specifically for groups of recordings - in the world seeking the best possible sound is... somewhat fascinating and bizarre. A truly massive levels of EQ is used in the recordings including audiophile ones (and not just EQ - all that as a part of "creative process"), together with varied amplitude response of loudspeaker-room and some loudspeaker's directivity issues along with different sound signatures of components and room acoustics would call for carefully applied adjustments based on listening with help of measurements for truly great results. But I understand why nearly everyone is opposed to it. Why? Practical audible results that most of people in high end hifi world were presented with in past decade or two. I too many times have heard systems "digitally corrected" with disastrous outcomes. Unfortunately, the guys in the camp of measurements care how it looks on the computer screen rather than how it sounds therefore overdoing it and declaring it "the right sound". Nothing is far from what you could and should expect from this type of fine tuning of truly highend audio system.

My take is: whatever works and significantly improves the sound... go for it!
 
Why? Practical audible results that most of people in high end hifi world were presented with in past decade or two. I too many times have heard systems "digitally corrected" with disastrous outcomes. Unfortunately, the guys in the camp of measurements care how it looks on the computer screen rather than how it sounds

I look at EQ from a less is more standpoint. Very limited PEQ points. The system should not need extensive EQ I tried an early version of Dirac and didn't like the results at all. I remember this prejudice going back well before the digital age I think it's more ingrained than that. Think the old smiley face EQ settings on an old 10 band analogs as an example in the 70's.

Rob :)
 
Because its like active bass equalization allows a speaker to play lower than it actually can. This has less to do with an equalizer more a simple solution of devlalet speaker matching.
Before 40hz after down to 17hz
 

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