CS Port LFT1 turntable added to the system

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Do I read correctly you're also the US distributor now?

hell no!!!

not in the hifi business now or ever.

all i wrote was that CS Port wanted to do business in the USA, i bought my CS Port through a dealer in the UK. but i had contacted CS Port directly in the spring and they never answered so that was that. then after seeing the Stereophile ad i wrote to them in September they responded back and eventually i was contacted by the UK dealer and we worked it out. not sure what changed.
 
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Mike. I love it. It's like a modern updated Micro Seiki 8000 with soul and a linear tracking tonearm.

briliant. It sounds like it's a world class performer as well.

Easy to set up or did you have help?

cheers Shane
 
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Thanks for the photos Mike and congratulations on the new CS Port.
I look forward to reading your listening experiences with it.
 
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Congratulations Mike. You have a nice combination of drive typologies. How did you settle on the CS Port over some other high mass belt/thread drive tables? Was it the linear tracking arm? I now have to go back to re-reading Mik's synopsis of the various tables he likes.

Do you have plans to eventually compare the two phono stages? I'm also curious about the effect of the two different top shelves under your three turntables. You have many variables now to explore optimization for each LP.
 
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I will be interested in the CS phonostage. It’s has a very interesting design. Enjoy the new additions. You will have fun finding the best cartridge mate for each deck.

briefly; really like what i hear so far, first impressions are that it has a purity and liquidity that is superb. totally grain-less. super low noise floor. great bass. when my piggy bank recovers i plan on adding a couple of SUT's for the 2 MM outlets. that would give me 2 more channels of phono to choose from. i especially want it for my Mono cartridge.

uses a SMPS (switch-mode power supply) and one tube, and is battery powered.

the person behind CS Port is Toshimichi Machino. he ran and is now retired from a company making some of the best power supplies in the world, Cosel Co. LTD.

https://en.cosel.co.jp/

http://wales.clsa.com/biosmain.asp?ctrlid=3239

i imagine that maybe he knows a little about power supplies. and that is what i hear in this product so far, very smooth and clear sound that captures the musical nuance and power.

but i need much more time to comment in detail, and will likely open a separate thread about it.
 
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Congratulations Mike!

The CS Port LFT1 turntable breaks a few common WBF assumptions - heavy granite base (granite is supposed to be a resonant inadequate material :oops: ) , linear tracker tonearm , belt drive!!! It will be great to read about its sound.

BTW, personally I do not care about videos with low quality audio tracks, but would love to listen to quality digital recordings of the output of the phono stages - IMHO we could all learn a lot from them, avoiding any speculation. Probably 24/96 would be a great format to share such recordings.
 

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Ok Mike, you are now in the same league of TT crazy as Tango,Congratulations !
:eek:
 

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Congratulations Mike!

The CS Port LFT1 turntable breaks a few common WBF assumptions - heavy granite base (granite is supposed to be a resonant inadequate material :oops: ) , linear tracker tonearm , belt drive!!! It will be great to read about its sound.

Yeah, I am surprised to see granite used in the plinth also. But Vyger fans can tell you all about belt drive and linear trackers already. Someone already said what I was thinking, that this looks like a modern Micro Seiki 8000. Very neat!

PS agree on migrating from videos to 24/96 PCM recordings. We should have a pass-around Sony D100 for the forum.
 
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For me one of the beauties of analog is this variation in mechanical elements and resulting presentation. It scales too. Mike is at a pinnacle, but I'm sure he enjoyed and learned from his earlier adventures in different decks as well.

If these subtle variations are embraced it leads to a lot of happy listening (imho).
 

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Ok Mike, you are now in the same league of TT crazy as Tango,Congratulations !
:eek:

not really. i am intentionally following Master Tang in terms of viewing vinyl playback as a 'many right answers' kind of thing. and i want to experience as many of those 'right answers' as i can at as high a level as i can. it's the fun part.

i am not unhappy that formerly i looked at it differently. i am evolving. no wrong way to look at it. just enjoy where you are.

i see the joy and satisfaction he has been experiencing with his array of tt's arms and cartridges. but he is in a higher league with his level. i am just scratching the surface.

understand i am not referring to dollars invested but wisdom and insights learned.

Master Tang is in a rarefied league in those respects.
 

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Mike. I love it. It's like a modern updated Micro Seiki 8000 with soul and a linear tracking tonearm.

briliant. It sounds like it's a world class performer as well.

Easy to set up or did you have help?

cheers Shane

hi Shane,

thank you! love it too. and agree there is a lot of Micro Seiki in the CS Port LFT1, as there are with other thread drive high mass turntables such as the AS-2000. separate free standing motor box, no feedback drive system, thread drive, air bearing, high mass plinth and platter. variances in execution and materials. but the same concept. not trying to minimize the unique special design aspects of any of these type turntables, only speaking to what they have in common.

a tried and true approach.

as far as the linear tracking arm; i'm very impressed by how elegant it is put together, and how it works. the alignment jig is a dream, and i mean child's play. for the vinyl novice, this single aspect might make it the right turntable to own......and the removable head-shell. much of the mystery and stress of arm set-up is eliminated. maybe some stressful aspect of this arm might rear it's head, but so far i've not seen that.

the air box for the air bearing and arm tube is dead quiet. you can put you ear up to it and hear zero. my hand feels zero vibration. these things were quite demanding of constant attention on the Rockport. maybe CS Port's heritage of their principle running a successful power supply company has raised the bar of what can be done to solve the engineering problems. really happy and relieved to see this..

i had zero help other than a few pointers over the phone from Mik, mostly related to assembly of the plinth and platter, and how critical the absence of dust between the plinth and platter is.
On the base of the turntable, we use 40 kg of 500 million year old granite (granite).
Random vibrations transmitted from the floor surface will be suppressed by the weight and vibration damping characteristics of granite. Granite is used as a reference for making the mother machine (machine tool) as a stone surface plate. In addition, it is processed to the highest grade, JIS 0 ,grade flatness of 5 microns, and a distance of several microns. While keeping the floating platters are spinning.

it was an easy, but certainly long and methodical, process, to unpack and set up. i would not say it would be easy for someone with no experience, but with an experienced turntable person and one step at a time approach, not daunting. last Friday night i started at 7pm and was listening about midnight. that included changing (and leveling) shelf heights a couple of times as i figured out where to put the air box.

if you are a linear tracking rookie, there would need to be a friendly voice accessible for some coaching.

i did the lifting by my lonesome, which is not what i would recommend. i'm 68 years old and no muscle man. the 40+kg plinth on to my 38" high top shelf was a little much for me, and the 30+kg platter gently set onto the delicate bearing was not easy either. but after my 7-8 month pursuit i was running on adrenaline. the rest not any issue.

and lastly; the manual is not bad, but full of Jinglish (Japanese-English). mostly you can figure it out but again, a rookie would be asking lots of questions. particularly in the area of attaching the air tubes it's pretty vague. once i figured it out i felt it should have been obvious. but nothing that is any big issue.
 
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Hi Mike,

Wow many congratulations indeed - very awesome addition to your analogue arsenal. Also very jealous lol.

I have to say that the CS Port sounded absolutely wonderful at Mik’s house. Not sure what cart you are using or plan to use - probably something on the musical side rather than the fast / lean side would be the way that I would go fwiw. It seems to naturally have incredible space, retrieval, decay.

Also fwiw - Mik said it was a deck that needed a little fettling to get the best out of but once you dial it in, it provides monster performance.
 

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Ok Mike, you are now in the same league of TT crazy as Tango,Congratulations !
:eek:

Funny. Tango has four and listens to one, perhaps two. Mike now has three and listens to all of them. Tango also has a lot of arms, but seems to prefer the 3012R. It will be very interesting to see how Mike's linear tracker compares to the Durands.
 
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Ok Mike, you are now in the same league of TT crazy as Tango,Congratulations !
:eek:
Lagonda man. Mike is in a total different league from me. He's been there done that on all fronts especially with tts. I am just a newbie frog leaping learning process with helps from friends with tremendous experience in different areas of audio.

What he cant match me is stupidity. He is smart.

Tang :)
 

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Funny. Tango has four and listens to one, perhaps two. Mike now has three and listens to all of them. Tango also has a lot of arms, but seems to prefer the 3012R. It will be very interesting to see how Mike's linear tracker compares to the Durands.
I was thinking of five until you ruined my itch reminding me what I would end up be doing. If you want to hear my new experience with new tt, don't remind me that I would end up listening to just one.

Kind regards,
Tang
 
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I was thinking of five until you ruined my itch reminding me what I would end up be doing. If you want to hear my new experience with new tt, don't remind me that I would end up listening to just one.

Kind regards,
Tang
But a Vygr would suit you well, Master Tang ;)
 

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Lagonda man. Mike is in a total different league from me. He's been there done that on all fronts especially with tts. I am just a newbie frog leaping learning process with helps from friends with tremendous experience in different areas of audio.

What he cant match me is stupidity. He is smart.

Tang :)

Dear Tang,

i do fully admit to being older than you.:cool: which counts for nothing.

but.......i have many years of extensively documented mistakes and failures of which i am reminded of when it fit's others purposes. which means i have experience, which is different than being smart.

anyway we have each learned from each other and i look forward to doing more of that.

and seriously my adding turntables was in part inspired by your efforts and obvious enjoyment. i want to be like Tang! and i don't think i'm alone on that.
 

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BTW, personally ... would love to listen to quality digital recordings of the output of the phono stages - IMHO we could all learn a lot from them, avoiding any speculation. Probably 24/96 would be a great format to share such recordings.

Dat ^

PS agree on migrating from videos to 24/96 PCM recordings. We should have a pass-around Sony D100 for the forum.

Both can be done; high res music recordings from a quality mic (inexpensive nowadays, like that portable cute stereo Sony one posted prior by bazelio), on a tripod positioned @ the sweet spot (listener ears), and a simple video only for picture in sync with the hires audio recording to show around...like Tang does @ the beginning of his clips...the needle drop, the album spinning on the platine, the album cover design art with closeup, ...anything else the artist (system owner) considers beneficial to the audience (us the Internet spectators/witnesses).

That way we get the best of both unique worlds in the new wave of hiend audio here @ WBF.
Tang provided a beautiful inspiration to sharing wider with the audiophile community, because not everyone can fly to his place (first we need an invitation), and some of us are very afraid of big snakes.

This is only a suggestion that others also seems to agree with, including Francisco, bazelio, Ked too I believe, and a whole lot bunch more ...

Personally WBF is unique from Tang's dedicated time in sharing his technique music video recordings. I am amazed @ the still relatively good quality audio when connected to my sound system @ home or through a quality pair of cans. Even some laptops and tablets are equipped with decent audio sound delivery speakers. It's not the end of the world but it gives a good representation of what it could be ... with an idea of room's acoustics and the overall character of the elements...gear, loudspeakers, TT, cable cords, various tweaks, ... the sky is the limit.

It beats any music video recordings @ any audio shows because the system is tuned in the artist's own music listening room. Audio shows are usually quickly improvised in hotel rooms less than acoustically ideal. So the recordings reflect that too.

I see tremendous potential from Tang's direction ...
 
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hi Shane,

thank you! love it too. and agree there is a lot of Micro Seiki in the CS Port LFT1, as there are with other thread drive high mass turntables such as the AS-2000. separate free standing motor box, no feedback drive system, thread drive, air bearing, high mass plinth and platter. variances in execution and materials. but the same concept. not trying to minimize the unique special design aspects of any of these type turntables, only speaking to what they have in common.

a tried and true approach.

as far as the linear tracking arm; i'm very impressed by how elegant it is put together, and how it works. the alignment jig is a dream, and i mean child's play. for the vinyl novice, this single aspect might make it the right turntable to own......and the removable head-shell. much of the mystery and stress of arm set-up is eliminated. maybe some stressful aspect of this arm might rear it's head, but so far i've not seen that.

the air box for the air bearing and arm tube is dead quiet. you can put you ear up to it and hear zero. my hand feels zero vibration. these things were quite demanding of constant attention on the Rockport. maybe CS Port's heritage of their principle running a successful power supply company has raised the bar of what can be done to solve the engineering problems. really happy and relieved to see this..

i had zero help other than a few pointers over the phone from Mik, mostly related to assembly of the plinth and platter, and how critical the absence of dust between the plinth and platter is.


it was an easy, but certainly long and methodical, process, to unpack and set up. i would not say it would be easy for someone with no experience, but with an experienced turntable person and one step at a time approach, not daunting. last Friday night i started at 7pm and was listening about midnight. that included changing (and leveling) shelf heights a couple of times as i figured out where to put the air box.

if you are a linear tracking rookie, there would need to be a friendly voice accessible for some coaching.

i did the lifting by my lonesome, which is not what i would recommend. i'm 68 years old and no muscle man. the 40+kg plinth on to my 38" high top shelf was a little much for me, and the 30+kg platter gently set onto the delicate bearing was not easy either. but after my 7-8 month pursuit i was running on adrenaline. the rest not any issue.

and lastly; the manual is not bad, but full of Jinglish (Japanese-English). mostly you can figure it out but again, a rookie would be asking lots of questions. particularly in the area of attaching the air tubes it's pretty vague. once i figured it out i felt it should have been obvious. but nothing that is any big issue.

Love the turntable
Congratulations
 
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