The Trios don't have the best tone, but they have to be heard with their bass horns. Dynamics and bass is great, and the tone then is acceptable. It does realism in a different way, not in the same way as some horns do on flow, tone, and liquidity of SET-horns flowing through (WE types, and custom ones built on that concept). Custom horns are the best for this and also can get the bass imo, but then you have to search for the right person to do that for you and there is no resale and no guarantee of how the product will turn out unless you can lift his horn and get it over to yours.
I said I would never buy another Turntable...Argh !!!
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this took us 5 years of testing horns and compression driver combos, designing midbasshorns, selecting drivers, passive filters etc...
My experience with SME IV & V are exactly as you describe yours, CaCa! And talk about being led by the ignorant media!
david
Wow.....they look amazing.
Congratulations. Perhaps you could start a Thread explaining the design and construction of these beauties..?
At Munich this year, I heard for the first time....the triple-stacked BassHorns with the Avante-Garde Trios and was blown away.
Nothing is as convincing as horn-loaded bass. The 'air' is exactly what bass reproduction needs IMO.
Normal subwoofers are unnaturally 'constricted' (and I've had various pairs integrated in my system for nearly 20 years) giving deep 'punch' and filling out the frequency response, but adding nothing to the illusion of reality.
You can hear the difference between BassHorns and dynamic subs when you compare the Living Voice Vox Palladians with the Cessaro Gamma II and Avard-Garde Trios with BassHorns.
Would love to see the rest of your system.....
Me too! Please start a system page.
Hi Micro,
Good & bad recordings is separate from the analog vs digital debate
Happy New Year!
david
David,
Fortunately we will have the New Year to agree and surely disagree on some of these points ...
Happy New Year!
I would never use the same cartridge and turntable with a SME V or with an air bearing linear tracking. To be true I would never risk recommending any tonearm to be used in a turntable where the LP unsupported, floating on pins. I easily accept that your turntable manufacturer did his homework and designed a tonearm to match its unusual characteristics.
Francisco, I guess you mean my Salvation tt where the lp sits gently unsecured on Delrin cones.
Yes, Vic’s creation breaks all the rules: lp not directly on platter, no clamp or record weight (ie the diametric opposite of AF1 with vacuum hold down), and a tonearm measuring all of 5”.
He actually created the arm several years before the tt, and 450 of the 500 arms sold have been installed on tts of all kinds, from SMEs to Technics’ to Garrards’.
Only 50 have gone on his unorthodox tt.
For what it’s worth, his take is not to bind the vinyl in any way, his hypothesis is that vacuum hold down, record clamps, periphery rings etc, all put stress on the vinyl. He prefers to let the lp “breathe”.
I’m investing in an lp flattener in the new year to cut out the kinks in some of my lps to allow easy support of my worst warped lps to sit on these Delrin cones.
Vic has always played to a different tune, and in my experience with his gear, he’s certainly succeeded with left field ideas.
Yes, Vic’s creation breaks all the rules: lp not directly on platter, no clamp or record weight (ie the diametric opposite of AF1 with vacuum hold down), and a tonearm measuring all of 5”.
He actually created the arm several years before the tt, and 450 of the 500 arms sold have been installed on tts of all kinds, from SMEs to Technics’ to Garrards’.
Only 50 have gone on his unorthodox tt.
For what it’s worth, his take is not to bind the vinyl in any way, his hypothesis is that vacuum hold down, record clamps, periphery rings etc, all put stress on the vinyl. He prefers to let the lp “breathe”.
I’m investing in an lp flattener in the new year to cut out the kinks in some of my lps to allow easy support of my worst warped lps to sit on these Delrin cones.
Vic has always played to a different tune, and in my experience with his gear, he’s certainly succeeded with left field ideas.
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So Christian, have you been left happy with Santa’s handiwork? AS2000 install and optimised setup. Let us know how your impressions evolve into firm opinions over time.
I will. I am nursing a sore back still spawned by the AS2000 install so I haven't had a lot of listening time. What I can say so far...it sounds more like a tape deck than a turntable....Musical Truth !
Christian, that must be the effects of the muscle relaxants kicking in!
Seriously, the AS-2000 must be one step closer to the ultimate aim of a tt with no inherent signature, colourless, noiseless, evenhanded and digging deeper.
Seriously, the AS-2000 must be one step closer to the ultimate aim of a tt with no inherent signature, colourless, noiseless, evenhanded and digging deeper.
i recollect how much i "lusted" after that Nakamichi in my youth.....d@mn that's dusted off some disused neurones.
24 second clip of the speed tach on the AS2000. I have never witnessed such speed stability...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urJTdUs-Ot8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urJTdUs-Ot8
no...the platter was just spinning. With this TT I never stop the platter for record changes. I have a soft and very thin leather matte David provides so no danger on abrasion on the vinyl record surface when changing and flipping records.
So I have 3 new anniversary SPU's on the Way...
SPU 85 - Thank you David
SPU 90 - Thanks 2Juki from Japan
SPU 95 - Thanks Ked from UK....
SPU 85 - Thank you David
SPU 90 - Thanks 2Juki from Japan
SPU 95 - Thanks Ked from UK....
So I have 3 new anniversary SPU's on the Way...
SPU 85 - Thank you David
SPU 90 - Thanks 2Juki from Japan
SPU 95 - Thanks Ked from UK....
These SPUs sure sound different from your CoralstonD. Is your taste in sound changing Christian. Or are you just collecting?
Tang
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