Magico Owners: Do you enjoy Analog, Digital, or Both?
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You seem pretty obsessed with Magico lately. As if there's something wrong the "doctor needs to diagnose".
Not sure the reason for the personal comments, but an alternate explanation is that I tend to follow all of the happenings in the industry, as it explains where things may be headed.
Magico and Wilson tend to be the industry leaders, so there is a proportionally higher focus on those brands - than on gear that gets made once or twice a year by the designer for their family member.
Vinyl sounds glorious, period. Not sure it matters if you have Apogees, Magicos, Wilson or horns
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Caesar, perhaps a better question to ask would be...do Magico owners prefer music or are they more interested in sound? Of course, one could ask that of all--or most A'philes
I think you mean something other than artifact since speakers can't add unwanted information while working right, only change existing information. For example if a DAC added a sound to the music that wasn't a change to the signal itself, that would be an artifact. The only way a speaker can do that is if something touches something it wasn't suppose to, like if a driver's spider went bad so the VC was scratching against it. Sorry to "pick on you" Floyd, but the word artifact is getting thrown around too much these days, and basically never correctly. It's important we are able to discuss things together with the same language.
Instead I'd suggest saying you're Magico speakers are able to cleaning reproduce the glory of vinyl without any loss of composure. That's partly due to your nice amplifiers too!
Amen. I can't help but love it.
If the Magico's are clean and free from artifacts good digital should sound "glorious" ...
Folsom, by artifacts I did mean the addition of sound. For example, if there is ringing or driver breakup that is audible in a speaker system, that is additive.
But I do agree, the word artifact is often misused and I'm sure I'm guilty of that as well.
Just not AS glorious.
This is of course, just my opinion and influenced by current electronics in use.
However rude that may sound, I think Al is right.
Caesar is starting Magico related threads all the time. IMO it is either an obsession, or, he takes a weird pleasure from starting heated up discussions py posting provocative questions.
His actions can be desribed as nothing else but trolling.
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I often disagree with Caesar - he knows about it - but I can not see any trolling in this thread. He started a thread similar to many he was started with other brands, and users have often participated, agreeing or disagreeing.
IMHO Magico and Wilson users must be prepared to accept being the focus of the attention of many audiophiles and the seed of many threads - it is the price of success! If he starts a similar thread on Wilson speakers and digital I will happily participate.
He may have started threads about other brands, but nowhere close to Magico. In fact, the # of threads started about all the major speaker brands combined, outweight the # of Magico threads. I did a quick search entering random speaker manufacturers names that came to my mind. Here is what I got:
Wilson – 3
Martin Logan – 2
Raidho – 2
Kharma – 1
Rockport – 0
ATC - 0
Evolution Acoustics – 0
Avalon – 0
Audio Note – 0
Sonus faber - 0
Vandersteen – 0
B&W – 0
Monitor audio – 0
Tidal – 0
Soundlab – 0
Ascendo – 0
Gauder Acoustics – 0
Living Voice – 0
Paradigm – 0
Hansen Audio – 0
Focal – 0
Cabasse – 0
Traiangle – 0
Magnepan – 0
Harbeth – 0
Avantgarde – 0
Acapella - 0
Marten Design - 0
and Magico ... 8 inflammatory threads (!)
If that is not an obsession, than I do not know, what it is. And it is not that Magico owners got offended - I have noticed all that, simply 'cos owners - more often than others - tend to notice things related to the brands they own. It is natural. But Al is not a Magico owner, so clearly Caesar's obsession become obvious to more people than just Magico owners.
The guy is neither an owner, nor someone interested in buying sth, who wants to do some research. All that he wants is to stir the pot and to create a heated discussion - which is a very definition of a forum troll.
Wilson – 3
Martin Logan – 2
Raidho – 2
Kharma – 1
Rockport – 0
ATC - 0
Evolution Acoustics – 0
Avalon – 0
Audio Note – 0
Sonus faber - 0
Vandersteen – 0
B&W – 0
Monitor audio – 0
Tidal – 0
Soundlab – 0
Ascendo – 0
Gauder Acoustics – 0
Living Voice – 0
Paradigm – 0
Hansen Audio – 0
Focal – 0
Cabasse – 0
Traiangle – 0
Magnepan – 0
Harbeth – 0
Avantgarde – 0
Acapella - 0
Marten Design - 0
and Magico ... 8 inflammatory threads (!)
If that is not an obsession, than I do not know, what it is. And it is not that Magico owners got offended - I have noticed all that, simply 'cos owners - more often than others - tend to notice things related to the brands they own. It is natural. But Al is not a Magico owner, so clearly Caesar's obsession become obvious to more people than just Magico owners.
The guy is neither an owner, nor someone interested in buying sth, who wants to do some research. All that he wants is to stir the pot and to create a heated discussion - which is a very definition of a forum troll.
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Caesar has done nothing more than point out that Magico owners just aren't as smart as most others.
Simple: both produce music and that's why I have a system... to listen to music.
For my favorites, I usually have analog and digital versions and enjoy hearing the different presentation.
For my favorites, I usually have analog and digital versions and enjoy hearing the different presentation.
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