Unlike some I am not much of a 'tube swapper', partly because the Elrog 300b tubes sound (still) very impressive to me. Interesting to hear how these valves compare to your current favourites. That said, I stick with the Elrogs but I do consider the Kron or Tak recti.
Lampizator Golden Gate Balanced Playing DSD256 and DSD512
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Unlike some I am not much of a 'tube swapper', partly because the Elrog 300b tubes sound (still) very impressive to me. Interesting to hear how these valves compare to your current favourites. That said, I stick with the Elrogs but I do consider the Kron or Tak recti.
Rectis make a BIG difference too, maybe more than the output tubes and the combination synergy is the MOST impactful.
Mike L must be feelng smug now. He went straight for the Tak/Elrog combo and never looked back. LoL
yes he did.
smug? i suppose i do get some amusement from all the hand wringing about tubes for the GG.....as I'm not in that place.
when it resembled my vinyl in presentation that was good enough for me.
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I disagree. I think someone with Ortofon A95 does not need to hand-wring about Lyra Etna or Atlas, but there is a big difference in texture, timbre, style of a Koetsu and an Ortofon, and one might prefer the other.
It was a general consensus among 4 people two weekends ago that Elrog, though beautiful, should not be the stock tube. It is very good at spotlighting certain instruments and vocals. The PX4 was unanimously preferred. We still have to shootout between PX4 and the Special Lampi 45s. The PX4 was better for both rock and orchestral, and for cello it was outstanding. Elrog seemed to be more of the occasionally change for a beautiful color kind of tube. I am keeping my Elrogs. I will also get the PX4 or the special 45s. We still have a couple of shootouts on different systems.
It was a general consensus among 4 people two weekends ago that Elrog, though beautiful, should not be the stock tube. It is very good at spotlighting certain instruments and vocals. The PX4 was unanimously preferred. We still have to shootout between PX4 and the Special Lampi 45s. The PX4 was better for both rock and orchestral, and for cello it was outstanding. Elrog seemed to be more of the occasionally change for a beautiful color kind of tube. I am keeping my Elrogs. I will also get the PX4 or the special 45s. We still have a couple of shootouts on different systems.
I did not intend to infer that there is any absolute sound or consensus for a reference. and also did not intend to infer that the tube rolling process cannot be satisfying.
only that in the spirit of Wisnon's comment agreed that I found my 'happy' place early.....as a result of it matching my own sonic compass. and other tube combinations might have gone even further.....and that my system context, power grid, interconnects, grounding scheme, preamp, etc. etc.......is unique.
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The Atlantic might be the sweet spot for me financially, as I don't think I can justify a Big 7. Will be interested to hear reports from the wild.
What I think any lampi rolling group or person should post is nothing is absolute as such it should be how it sounds compared to X .
I am not a muscian nor do attend live un amped events . Not much ona monthly basis amped live events . In fact my only clAim to un amped music is two places. One is the NYC subway both groups and single instrument play daily in man places . The other is church or my audio room. Does this make me not know its good to me lol. I have posted what I feel is better even have said what I think is better or more real . This is simply me and my small brains view , but what I can add and few here or elsewhere can post of is this. I listen to my music on ,any forms. Speakers , headphones , ciems. While some or most think speakers are the only real perspective is the rule for me it's not. Having a few forms gets me to views the others do not . My reason is this each is a window into the manically choice , each pronounces the maniacal event very differently.
Roloimg tubes ona lampi is a must that any lampi owner should try. More than most products made is the unique views that tube rolling gives , this is what should be shared amongst us . Perhaps as we live in certain places maybe we can have meets , I each of our own rooms Taking turns. As I primarily live in NYC but also North Carolina I think I could be a dew places . This is what I have done with headphones , amps and dacs. This hobby is expensive so having meets is almost free and a great source of views for this and general audio sound Scapes. Hope this helps some of us and I very much would entertained a group .
I am not a muscian nor do attend live un amped events . Not much ona monthly basis amped live events . In fact my only clAim to un amped music is two places. One is the NYC subway both groups and single instrument play daily in man places . The other is church or my audio room. Does this make me not know its good to me lol. I have posted what I feel is better even have said what I think is better or more real . This is simply me and my small brains view , but what I can add and few here or elsewhere can post of is this. I listen to my music on ,any forms. Speakers , headphones , ciems. While some or most think speakers are the only real perspective is the rule for me it's not. Having a few forms gets me to views the others do not . My reason is this each is a window into the manically choice , each pronounces the maniacal event very differently.
Roloimg tubes ona lampi is a must that any lampi owner should try. More than most products made is the unique views that tube rolling gives , this is what should be shared amongst us . Perhaps as we live in certain places maybe we can have meets , I each of our own rooms Taking turns. As I primarily live in NYC but also North Carolina I think I could be a dew places . This is what I have done with headphones , amps and dacs. This hobby is expensive so having meets is almost free and a great source of views for this and general audio sound Scapes. Hope this helps some of us and I very much would entertained a group .
Good evening Lampi owners.
My GG returned from Lukasz yesterday replete with upgraded dsd512 engine, latest r2r PCM, and tweaked output to allow the PX-25 and Kr242 tubes. It also came with my new PX-25 tubes. I hooked it all up last night with the anniversary 5u4g recti and straight off it has never sounded as good as this. Not sure whether the grounding was tweaked but signal to noise has increased further (I am very pedantic about signal to noise). I left it running over night and all day before doing listening.
My goodness - the dac is very much better than before - absolutely wonderful body, bloom, heft, stage and musicality. I haven't changed to my usual tubes because frankly I can't see the point as the balance is so spot on.
I did manage to undertake some brief 512 upsampling in foobar (foobar is less intensive on a computer) via laptop - I started with native double dsd to octuple dsd and it was staggering. Alas my computer could only hack about 30 seconds before stuttering. Looking forward to what SGM will sound like on the octuple.
Anyway - enjoy.
My GG returned from Lukasz yesterday replete with upgraded dsd512 engine, latest r2r PCM, and tweaked output to allow the PX-25 and Kr242 tubes. It also came with my new PX-25 tubes. I hooked it all up last night with the anniversary 5u4g recti and straight off it has never sounded as good as this. Not sure whether the grounding was tweaked but signal to noise has increased further (I am very pedantic about signal to noise). I left it running over night and all day before doing listening.
My goodness - the dac is very much better than before - absolutely wonderful body, bloom, heft, stage and musicality. I haven't changed to my usual tubes because frankly I can't see the point as the balance is so spot on.
I did manage to undertake some brief 512 upsampling in foobar (foobar is less intensive on a computer) via laptop - I started with native double dsd to octuple dsd and it was staggering. Alas my computer could only hack about 30 seconds before stuttering. Looking forward to what SGM will sound like on the octuple.
Anyway - enjoy.
Hi Al,
Please could you reword the first part of the post as I am not clear what you are asking. I have auto switching between PCM and DSD without pressing the button if that is what you mean?
I have the ever faithful copper Duelands bypassed with Dueland silver cast. Don't forget this is my same GG that I have had for ages so got countless hours on those bad boys.
Thanks. You got my question I really need to use glasses and read before send lol
But I'll Post it like this
When using USB input do you have to push the knob to go from dsd to pcm ?
Now how do you access dsd 512 , do you need to use the knob or does yours do dsd 512 auto as well
But I'll Post it like this
When using USB input do you have to push the knob to go from dsd to pcm ?
Now how do you access dsd 512 , do you need to use the knob or does yours do dsd 512 auto as well
I seemed to access 512 without pushing knob today. Let me confirm for sure when SGM back in play but fairly certain.
Bill, ironically, the problem with Lampizator's upgrade is that, we never know what is the latest r2r PCM because every time one makes a purchase (at different time), he believes it would be the latest and only God knows what Lukasz has been doing all the time in his yard. LOL..I ordered mine back to mid of July and received it in the August this year. It was the first red pcb and by that time, it was the DSD512 engine and latest r2r PCM, too. But after a week, Lukasz has released the gold pcb. LOL..I looked at his FB page and like: What!!!???
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