Crystal Disc US$1600 was played with Genesis Speaker

[andymodern]

Dear Gary,

Thanks for demonstrating my Crystal Disc in your top-of-the-line Genesis speaker! Every audience was shocked by the "perfect" sound! The music was energized, more definition, and much more space with much concreted bass and beautiful hi.

Thanks Gary! Hope to see you next year in the Hong Kong Audiovisual Show!

 

[andymodern]

It was our honor to have Mr. RYOUJI HIGASHI - the designer/father of HQCD and Crystal Disc amongst us.

 

[andymodern]

This titles was once released by FIM in the format of XRCD and K2HD. Now in Crystal Disc!

 

[andymodern]

This one, recorded by Todd Garfinkle of MA Recordings, was released in many formats: normal CD, Green CD, Silver-alloy AQCD and LP. Now in Crystal Disc!

 

[Bruce B]

This one, recorded by Todd Garfinkle of MA Recordings, was released in many formats: normal CD, Green CD, Silver-alloy AQCD and LP. Now in Crystal Disc!
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I see a "DSD" label on here even though it's a CD at 16/44.1 Isn't that misleading? Wouldn't the original DSD files on a SACD be better?

 

[mep]

I see a "DSD" label on here even though it's a CD at 16/44.1 Isn't that misleading? Wouldn't the original DSD files on a SACD be better?

Bruce-What do you want for $1600?

 

[Steve Williams]

You lost me. Am I to understand that this CD is $1600

 

[rockitman]

Bruce-What do you want for $1600?

The fact remains, it's 16/44 digital. If you really want an improvement you need to change format from digital to analog as long as the original material was recorded analog.

 

[mep]

You lost me. Am I to understand that this CD is $1600

The other day I thought each disc was $1000 and then I thought Gary said they were actually under a $1000 and now Andymodern says they are $1600 each. I don't know what the truth is.

 

[Steve Williams]

The other day I thought each disc was $1000 and then I thought Gary said they were actually under a $1000 and now Andymodern says they are $1600 each. I don't know what the truth is.

That's beyond incredible.

Caveat emptor.

 

[Bruce B]

That's beyond incredible.

Caveat emptor.

That's right.... when it all comes down to it.... it's just a CD

 

[edorr]

You lost me. Am I to understand that this CD is $1600

The bits encoded on this disc are gold plated. There are lots of bits - it adds up in a hurry.

If you rip the exact same datafile bit for bit to a harddrive apparently the gold plating is removed in the copying process and it sounds like plain old 44/16 again.

 

[Bruce B]

The bits encoded on this disc are gold plated. There are lots of bits - it adds up in a hurry.
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I've got Gold Plated Archival Discs from MAM-A and they only cost me $2.75 !!!

 

[Johnny Vinyl]

I used to buy those Kodak Gold CD-R.....


Seriously though, what is the cost? Like Mark said, I don't know what the truth is either.

 

[Bruce B]

I used to buy those Kodak Gold CD-R.....


Seriously though, what is the cost? Like Mark said, I don't know what the truth is either.

A Glass Master that is used in the production of CD's is "only" $400-$600

 

[MylesBAstor]

Price aside, let's not lose track of the reasons for Gary's original post: we've yet to extract all the info from 16/44 and that's what I heard over a decade ago when comparing different materials for making CDs and most recently when hearing 16/44 played back thru the Vivaldi stack.

Is it too little, too late? Are CDs dead? Will everything go the way of d/l DSD files?

Well it makes tape look like a bargain now anyway

 

[edorr]

I've got Gold Plated Archival Discs from MAM-A and they only cost me $2.75 !!!

The trick here is the individual bits are gold plated, not just the disc. It is like the laser reader is exposed to a golden shower. This then results in far more accurate voltage being created in the downstream circuitry. Its a very complicated process. A platinum version is under development. It won't be cheap.

 

[Johnny Vinyl]

The trick here is the individual bits are gold plated, not just the disc. It is like the laser reader is exposed to a golden shower. This then results in far more accurate voltage being created in the downstream circuitry. Its a very complicated process. A platinum version is under development. It won't be cheap.

It's stuff like this that scares away any potential newcomer into audio.

 

[jazdoc]

It's worth it because the measurements are better. It also sounds better but I don't trust my ears.

 

[Steve Williams]

Myles

Right on. It makes tape look cheap.