World Debut: Vertere Reference Tonearm
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-- ...But for most of us the end of the world would be around year 2040.
For some it would be sooner, and for others, not that much later. And that's a fact, tonearm or not.
For some it would be sooner, and for others, not that much later. And that's a fact, tonearm or not.
I'm not sure about the ET 2.5 but Rockport and Kuzma's solution is a damping trough filled with silicone oil coupled to the armwand via an adjustable paddle, although i have heard comments stating this can deaden the sound, my guess results being cartridge dependent?
The ET2 is an really intriguing design, and you must understand its geometry to set and operate it properly. But once working properly it represents excellent value for money. It sounded great mounted on the old Xerxes turntable, although it looked strange, as it must be placed in a diagonal position. But we can always say that such system has the Vertere DNA.
An old Xerxes w/ET2, hopefully not a sagging experience ...
On another board, we share needle-drops (educational). One member recently submitted a comparison of his many analog front ends, one being a VPI HW-19 Mk III turntable, Eminent Technology ET-2 tonearm, Audio-Technica OC9ML/II low-output MC cartridge, Meitner/Museatex PA6i Plus (John Wright upgrade) phono preamp.
I've heard an ET2 live, but many moons ago. Actually, I had a chance to buy an ET2 from a professional(magazine based) reviewer a while ago but decided to get an Alphason HR100s instead (partially based on that reviewers opinion). I needed to replace a G2.0.
Anyway, within the above comparison, the ET2 version did sound quite focused and grain free, but although spacial information/detail was readily evident, vocals had excellent diction and the music was well versed, it's dimensional presentation was more wide than deep, obviously more upfront / forward than say his Oracle/Graham version which exhibited better layering and delineation of dimensional space. However, of the 8 different rigs (many versions & variables), I still placed the ET2 top 3, with consideration that it might sound even better (or different) based on auxiliary choices.
tb1
TBone, you are right. The ET-2 is a wonderful design, highly underrated. In the hands of an experienced (just experienced) analog user it is a big shot, especially for an air bearing arm. I had it on my Nakamichi 1000 and still have it as a spare. don't think I will sell it quickly...
Well, like many unique products, perhaps it was more misunderstood than underrated.
It's not an arm that will suit everyone, however in the right rig/hands, it's capable of providing a very unique musical experience.
And it doesn't cost $35K.
tb1
not $35 K at all. I would go for a nice city car for this price. But as you know everyone is talking about the tonearm because it got this price tag. If it would have been targeted at 6000 - which I think is appropriate (without the hidden diamonds in the tube) - not so many people would have raised attention. It will happen like with the Onedof, one or some units - and we will forget it. The ET-2 is still alive...
I could possibly be convinced to sell my ET-2 arm, two air pumps from ET (the Japanese ones), a homemade surge tank with air pressure gauge, and the metal ET-2 setup jig that was made for dealers and is very rare for a decent price.
Unlike the Onedof turntable - which is a unique one-of design, the Vertere Reference Tonearm was designed to be manufactured. You might be skeptics here.... but time will tell.
Congregation of tonearm/turntable designers in the Genesis room. Touraj also spent half an hour running Bob Graham through the details of his design. He says that if anyone can make it any cheaper, "Be my guest!".
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/heres-something-you-dont-see-every-day
Congregation of tonearm/turntable designers in the Genesis room. Touraj also spent half an hour running Bob Graham through the details of his design. He says that if anyone can make it any cheaper, "Be my guest!".
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/heres-something-you-dont-see-every-day
Gary,
the guy right from you could make it cheaper
He makes wonderful tonearms. Touraj is a well reputated developer and businessman. I regard his turntables much more than his tonearms. But when you say the new arm is an exception I will try listening to it. BTW there are some new designs on the horizon. will be a very good year for analog. Are you coming to Munich High End fair?
Gary,
the guy right from you could make it cheaper
Yeah this will be a very good year for analog. That was even reported by Forbes.
The AMG tonearm from Werner is also very interesting, but I haven't heard it. The Thales Simplicity is also intriguing.
I fell in love with Touraj's tonearm with the Artemiz and I have the one with the anti-resonant coating (it might have been Mk III or IV but is not the latest version). I have the first Xerses as it was brought to Singapore as a demo to show to potential distributors in 1986 (Touraj was my schoolmate in Imperial College in London), and also the Xerses 10 and the Xerses 20 plus. Having been in analog all my life, the new arm was a real eye-opener. The improvement between it and an arm that I had previously considered one of the best was not subtle.
I'm trying to arrange for Munich - it won't be confirmed till next month.
yes, the AMG is a technological well thought and implemented table. looks simple but isn't - similar to Tourajis designs. and also sounds exceptionally. of course the price is challenging. I would compare it to the Brinkmann Oasis - maybe also coming with a Simplicity - one of the best tonearm designs of last year.
Now what we need is something offering:
* VTF (vertical tracking force) non-touch-adjustment: on-the-fly - during play.
* SRA adjustment is independent from tonearm height (fixed mounting head)
* dynamic tunable effective moving mass
* dynamic antiskating
- w/exchangeable inserts for any tangential curve!
* carbide hardend titanium / carbon-composite arm pipe with
internal liquid dampening on whole inner surface.
* exchangeable inserts in counterweight tuned to cartridge's compliance.
Thus eliminating low frequency resonance peak.
maybe, maybe we will see it...
Now what we need is something offering:
* VTF (vertical tracking force) non-touch-adjustment: on-the-fly - during play.
* SRA adjustment is independent from tonearm height (fixed mounting head)
* dynamic tunable effective moving mass
* dynamic antiskating
- w/exchangeable inserts for any tangential curve!
* carbide hardend titanium / carbon-composite arm pipe with
internal liquid dampening on whole inner surface.
* exchangeable inserts in counterweight tuned to cartridge's compliance.
Thus eliminating low frequency resonance peak.
maybe, maybe we will see it...
Yes, I agree. It was his first product out of school
I dabbled with a lot of other turntables while I had the first Xerses.... until the 10th anniversary Xerses 10.
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