Swiss Digital Fuse Box Anyone?

[treitz3]

Adaptors have been discussed at length. Anywhere from $9 to $700. Now, where those discussions are? They are lost somewhere within multiple discussions.

Heck, it could even be within this discussion, however multiple pages back.

Tom

 

[corepowertech]

From what I can see, It looks like the Infinity fuse box will also need either a pigtail or an adaptor to use with a component. I also don't see an option for this on the website when I last checked yesterday. Can anyone confirm that the Infinity fuse box does indeed require either a pigtail or an adaptor for connection to a component, and if so, is an adaptor on the way soon?

I AM CONFIRMING - Infinity Fuse works just like SDFB wherein you need a Sluggo to plug into the gear you are using this with AND either cables or Adaptors

The difference is this - Infinity Fuse is User Programmable and does NOT HAVE a Micro Processor or any associated components necessary to PROGRAM Manually as used with Swiss Digital Fuse Box.

Thanks - Mark

 

[corepowertech]

Videos would definitely help your customers to decipher the differences between differing products.

For example - I am still struggling to know the difference between your infinity fuse and the SDFB (if any, other than outer box design/size). I take it that one is user adjustable and the SDFB is factory set? Or am I way off on this?

Clearing the air and explaining things in a very precise way (without disclosing proprietary information) can help clear up some of the confusion, that I honestly think is holding some of your sales back.

Tom

See reply to Tuffy

I've said we will do instructional videos. Not much more to add. We will do them.

They both use the basic topology - the major complaint after 1811 units sold of SDFB is/was - "wish I could set it myself"

Now you can -

For me - the big issue revolves around reaching a greater audience and keeping hold (as best as we can) to this segment.

We introduced these products with a 25% off discount - this lowers the number to $295 in a world where SDFB will HAVE TO GO UP to manage the Tariff bite and Aluminum adder. Maybe 595 before you know it.

We are right where we want to be.

This applies to Line Noise Black Hold (probably the most consequential product we have ever made in our 6 year history) as well as Snub Station Zero too.

Priced Humanely and actually work as described.

Thanks - Mark

PS - reviews are already out there - Peer Review too on our site - we appreciate all of you.

 

[highstream]

From what I can see, It looks like the Infinity fuse box will also need either a pigtail or an adaptor to use with a component. I also don't see an option for this on the website when I last checked yesterday. Can anyone confirm that the Infinity fuse box does indeed require either a pigtail or an adaptor for connection to a component, and if so, is an adaptor on the way soon?

The Piggys are under SDFB and Clean Power Conditioners. Go back over this thread earlier this year for better alternatives to Piggys, plus just in the past week about the adapters coming from Vera-Fi.

 

[Tuffy7]

The Piggys are under SDFB and Clean Power Conditioners. Go back over this thread earlier this year for better alternatives to Piggys, plus just in the past week about the adapters coming from Vera-Fi.

Thank You.

 

[treitz3]

@Tuffy7 - I went through the thread and created this list for you. This is the most comprehensive list that I know of for SDFB pig-tail options to date.


Vera-Fi has 3 or 4 different adapters. https://verafiaudiollc.com/collections/all (Just contact them for the pig tail alternatives or pig tails themself.

Amazon- https://www.amazon.com/CGTime-Stand...C13/dp/B07HRJKGFD/ref=pd_ci_mcx_pspc_dp_2_i_4

From our friends at Snake River Audio, there are 2 choices.
Takshaka - https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=297 - Note - Use the drop down and select 8" for the pig tail.
Signature AMP Series - https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=38Note - Use the drop down and select 8" for the pig tail.

From our friends at Audio Sensibility, there is also a SDFB AC connector. This is available as a simple connector, and it's also offered at a 1' length. https://audiosensibility.com/blog/a.../ac-adapters/#!/SDFB-AC-Connector/p/726442470

2 from our friends at Reichelt for differing countries/connectors other than US. (Some of the others have this as an option as well )
https://www.reichelt.com/ch/de/shop/produkt/netzadapter_us-schutzkontaktstecker_typ_b_f_schwarz-285359?PROVID=2808¤cy=CHF&gad_source=1 -

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From feedback that I have read so far on this and other forums, the Amazon and one from HD (not linked ) are very restrictive and may very well really thwart the benefits the SDFB actually gives you. The AS pig tails seem to be well regarded, same with the Reichelt. There are mixed reviews coming with Vera-Fi pig tail options alone and he just came out with 3 more options to be considered. While I have no direct experience with any of those, I got the Snake River Audio Takshaka 8" Pig tail for my SDFB MAX and I can say with full confidence that there are NO restrictions with that one. Hope this list helps you with your choice.

Tom

 

[highstream]

I can add to Tom's list. Alex at WyWires made 14" Diamond ($600) and 12" Platinum ($250) power cords for the SDFB on request. I've also found the Audio Sensibility Gold plated "SFDB AC Connector" to be very good (and a big improvement over the Amazon's), although I prefer the WW a little. The Snake River Takshaka is excellent if one likes neutral voicing.

 

[highstream]

Audio Sensibility is giving 13% off on their SDFB adapters, among other things, initially started in conjunction with the Montreal Audio show. The webpage says until July 13, but I'm told the code is good until the end of July. https://audiosensibility.com/blog/2025/03/16/maf-2025-show-specials-13-off/

 

[ronfint]

I understand that there is not a lot of sympathy for diy on this forum, but I’d like to point out that adapters for SDFB are easy to make, perform very well, and will save a lot of money. Today I made an adapter with 2 x 12 awg wire taken from Furutech S032N power cable. It replaced this home made adapter also with Furutech S032N, but a single run:


This cable is made from 12 awg wire. I cut out the wire and doubled into similar Connex plugs (sans the outsides). Here are a couple of photos. Each wire is 9 cm long.


Since the adapter sits behind my equipment, I didn’t bother trying to make it nicer looking. That could be easily done by sliding it into some carbon fiber tubing.

The 2 x 12 awg gives approximately 9 awg equivalence (according to an internet search). There is not a major improvement coming from switching adapters, but there is definitely minor improvement across the spectrum, especially with more power in the bass region.

 

[Cellcbern]

I understand that there is not a lot of sympathy for diy on this forum, but I’d like to point out that adapters for SDFB are easy to make, perform very well, and will save a lot of money. Today I made an adapter with 2 x 12 awg wire taken from Furutech S032N power cable. It replaced this home made adapter also with Furutech S032N, but a single run:
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This cable is made from 12 awg wire. I cut out the wire and doubled into similar Connex plugs (sans the outsides). Here are a couple of photos. Each wire is 9 cm long.
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Since the adapter sits behind my equipment, I didn’t bother trying to make it nicer looking. That could be easily done by sliding it into some carbon fiber tubing.

The 2 x 12 awg gives approximately 9 awg equivalence (according to an internet search). There is not a major improvement coming from switching adapters, but there is definitely minor improvement across the spectrum, especially with more power in the bass region.

Never made sense for the SDFB to require a "pigtail", DIY or otherwise when the female AC connector could have been a female IEC connector instead, obviating the need for an additional cable. My understanding is that such a version is forthcoming.

 

[highstream]

Never made sense for the SDFB to require a "pigtail", DIY or otherwise when the female AC connector could have been a female IEC connector instead, obviating the need for an additional cable. My understanding is that such a version is forthcoming.

Made sense if one has a power conditioner or regenerator, where one SFDB would take up two outlets. Maybe unless the unit could have rotated to be plugged in vertically. Maybe From the images posted, I'm not sure that problem will be solved with the new adapter. To a degree, there's been the same problem with the Snubway and Mainstream.

 

[Cellcbern]

Made sense if one has a power conditioner or regenerator, where one SFDB would take up two outlets. Maybe unless the unit could have rotated to be plugged in vertically. Maybe From the images posted, I'm not sure that problem will be solved with the new adapter. To a degree, there's been the same problem with the Snubway and Mainstream.

Because of the triangular case the Snubway and Mainstream work next to another connector/plug-in, in the double outlets I've tried them in.

 

[highstream]

But component power cord connectors were a different matter.

 

[jeremya]

Just got this from Mark in my email today:

 

[highstream]

Just got this from Mark in my email today:

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I can see how this eliminates the need for a second power cord or adapter. However, something still needs to go in the component's fuse holder, so I'm missing how this the AC Tuning X having a sluggo holder solves that.

 

[highstream]

I’ve received the explanations below from Mark as to why a sluggo in the AC Tuning X. What I gleam from it is that the X is a very good sounding cord/adapter replacement that can be — and if I’m not mistaken electrically needs to be — tuned to the listener’s preference. In that sense, it’s like the tuning devices that some developers incude on or with their cables. An SDFB with sluggo in the component can be still be used if a power cord is needed to connect to the component, with the SDFB plugging into the X (I can’t tell if the Infinity Fuse would also plug into the X). If a component is close enough, then an SDFB can be skipped, but presumably a real amperage rated fuse would then be needed in the component.

Here’s Mark:

“The AC tuning X can be one of two things it can replace a power cord or you could use it in a more recognized way as an adapter. A power adapter

It would be difficult for me to explain why I chose to design this product with a sluggo on the line. There were almost 12 months of listening testing going back and forth with Peter madnick in California

The original design had a slug[go] on both line and neutral. We are always leaving ground alone and passing it through properly between input to output

After a lot of back and forth Peter and I both have the same conclusion The sluggo made the most amount of improvement when placed on the line only and [not] the neutral

There's really no other information I can offer except to say I'm very pleased with the results. The customer can use the sluggo to change modify or create the result [they are after] with this device

Each logo has its own Sonic signature as you well know and this same basic idea does the same for tuning one's power

There are no shortage of great power cables out there, [and] there are no shortages of adapters priced from $3 to oh my God, but this AC tuning X device really works and those that wish to try it can for 30 days and if they're not satisfied or they don't feel they're getting enough for their invested dollar they may return it for a full refund

We are also allowing customers to send in their piggy tail or whatever they're using with Swiss digital fuse box etc for full credit of up to $199

I think it's fair and I think people are about to be very amazed at what's possible with a product like this.”

Thank you so much for engaging. I hope I'm explaining this well enough for you to try one or two “

“A Swiss digital fuse box isn't necessarily needed

If you can manage the mechanical connection with say your AC mains and one of your pieces of gear, this acts as a power cord

It could be used either way and in either configuration it really does make a very significant improvement over just a power cord.”

 

[corepowertech]

Good Morning All,

If there are any needs, concerns, or questions you are welcome to e-mail me at verafiaudio@gmail.com

Here of course is also welcome

Thanks @highstream for posting this. Surprised, but very gratified.

Best to all - Mark

PS - 100% made in the USA (even the milling)

 

[J007B]

Sounds like a whole new rabbit hole to travel down. I bought a SDFB a few months back to try on my AC Helene. I finally got it installed about a month and a half ago. From the start there was an increase in bass, both in intensity and speed. Then sibilance started to creep in. I could mitigate this to a certain extent by changing the bias on the Helene, although sibilance is still there, other areas are starting to suffer (vocals). A couple of weeks ago I ordered a Takshaka piggy tail from Snake River Audio (haven't received it yet) hoping that it will help with the sibilance problem. Hopefully the Takshaka will solve the problem. If it doesn't, the SDFB will probably come out. It takes too much work (and money) to keep moving heavy gear to change a fuse........

 

[highstream]

Sounds like a whole new rabbit hole to travel down. I bought a SDFB a few months back to try on my AC Helene. I finally got it installed about a month and a half ago. From the start there was an increase in bass, both in intensity and speed. Then sibilance started to creep in. I could mitigate this to a certain extent by changing the bias on the Helene, although sibilance is still there, other areas are starting to suffer (vocals). A couple of weeks ago I ordered a Takshaka piggy tail from Snake River Audio (haven't received it yet) hoping that it will help with the sibilance problem. Hopefully the Takshaka will solve the problem. If it doesn't, the SDFB will probably come out. It takes too much work (and money) to keep moving heavy gear to change a fuse........

What adapter/power cord have you been using on each side of the SDFB? The Takshaka is excellent, but decidedly neutral, if that matters to you (I returned mine). To the SDFB, I've done well with a combo of short WyWires Platinums/Diamond power cords and Audio Sensibility gold-plated Furutech adapters. And a brass sluggo in my Lampi GG3 dac.

 

[corepowertech]

Sounds like a whole new rabbit hole to travel down. I bought a SDFB a few months back to try on my AC Helene. I finally got it installed about a month and a half ago. From the start there was an increase in bass, both in intensity and speed. Then sibilance started to creep in. I could mitigate this to a certain extent by changing the bias on the Helene, although sibilance is still there, other areas are starting to suffer (vocals). A couple of weeks ago I ordered a Takshaka piggy tail from Snake River Audio (haven't received it yet) hoping that it will help with the sibilance problem. Hopefully the Takshaka will solve the problem. If it doesn't, the SDFB will probably come out. It takes too much work (and money) to keep moving heavy gear to change a fuse........

Easy fix re sibilance. The SDFB when used with a Brass Sluggo really creates a more Organic feel. We RARELY get this comment - send me your address and I will pop a few choices in the mail to you.

Best - Mark