Zero Distortion: Tango Time

[zerostargeneral]

Dear Tang,

Versions aside,your system is truly magnificent bravo once more.

Kindest regards,G.

 

[gian60]

Hi Tang
I have the speaker 3 mt from the rear wall and far from lateral wall
Could be this give more spatial

 

[Tango]

Hi Tang
I have the speaker 3 mt from the rear wall and far from lateral wall
Could be this give more spatial

Yes, could be. But I think more from CH electronics.

 

[Tango]

Dear Tang,

Versions aside,your system is truly magnificent bravo once more.

Kindest regards,G.

Dear G,

I hope you are doing great. Thank you for your kind words. Many people expressed that the tone of this pressing is "pure". I on contrary think the sound is on a lean side with less texture. The transparency of the recording is exceptional may be that's why the word "pure" comes to mind. Among limited number of classical records I own, this record could rank first in term of clarity and quietness. Ked said live orchestra has "natural warmth." I don't feel any warmth from this record. I am also used to hearing more hall play in great classical recordings of the past. But this one is different. On dynamic range, it is equivalent to Decca greatness. Overall, I still think it is the best new record on classical I have. Interestingly, it attracts me to keep playing and enjoying while feeling skeptical somehow. I haven't done much research on this #7 with other conductors. The video of Szell has some interesting sneaky explosive passage. Do you have this on vinyl.

Kindest regards,
Tang

 

[gian60]

I Tang,like i wrote in Bruckner thread i bought this vynil
I am no good to post but i will do video and send you on whatsapp
But this time your system with sub and lamm will be better in every parameter

 

[awsmone]

Hi

Now that many people in forum have the Bruckner 7 dtd you can compare mine to your own video using handphone to record this same recording from your system. Of course, no need to post it publicly like me . I find it useful to see where to improve my system by comparing videos with my great friend Gian (whom I never met in person.) He once sent me a recording of his system on Jazz Pawnshop. I compared it to mine and his system beat me badly on staging and spatial info. That was a trigger for me to try to improve my system on that aspect which caused me to remove three absorber panels at front wall behind my speakers. The gap now reduced greatly but his SS CH base system still is better than mine on this regard. There are many great systems in this forum better sounding than those available to hear in commercial places too. Pity I cannot teleport myself to listen in real. Try to understand the limitations of a recording device or hand phone, iphone and samsung also sound a bit different. Use it wisely it could be very beneficial.

I usually record 5.3 meters away from my speakers.

hi Tang

hope you and your family are well

as Bruckner fan bot it’s great you posted this but .....
i suspect 5 meters means your hearing more room than your system
there is a lot of second harmonic on the strings not naturally in any way
the brass is subdued and lacks any sense of brass or “blast”
the flow and musicality is good
instrument differentiation and timbre is blurred
treble bass balance is confusing

i suspect this relates more to your recording than system

sorry but I feel this recording cannot possibly represent your systems sound

a

 

[awsmone]

Speaks for itself.

I like the performance but the recording is “grey” every instrument has the same coloration like a great black and white photo ....tempi and nuance is great however with some overload on violin forte chorals and woodwind that sound a million miles away and brass sound like they come from the bowels of the earth

 

[zerostargeneral]

Dear Sir,

Please try and focus on the performance?

Kindest regards,G.

 

[Folsom]

This is how my system evolved.

Two years ago.

Now.

You can use your video productively to track changes. I admit my hearing memory is not good. I don't remember what my system used to sound two years ago.

Wow, really sounds better now. I could immediately detect weirdness in horns and such on the old videos...

 

[Tango]

Hi


hi Tang

hope you and your family are well

as Bruckner fan bot it’s great you posted this but .....
i suspect 5 meters means your hearing more room than your system
there is a lot of second harmonic on the strings not naturally in any way
the brass is subdued and lacks any sense of brass or “blast”
the flow and musicality is good
instrument differentiation and timbre is blurred
treble bass balance is confusing

i suspect this relates more to your recording than system

sorry but I feel this recording cannot possibly represent your systems sound

a

Hi Andrew,

It is great to get your feedbacks. (Also welcome feedback from other who has this album.)

- This youtube recording does bear resemblance to my systems sound. Except you could hear more in real. And the phone recording never capture the bass well.

- 5.2 meter away is where I normally sit. I sometime sit on a bench in front of my table 3.7 meter away from the speakers. At this position the sound is more immersive but images are not as defined. However I never found the room play any more or less whether sitting 3.5 or 5.2. If you hear a lot of second harmonic on strings I doubt my room does that. If I doubt it is my room causing the sound you hear then it is indeed my system.

- From this particular pressing, I actually feel the blast of brass is the attraction. 180 degree turn of how you hear. The sound of brass was blasting from the back row.

- This d to d has superb instrument differentiation. Even better than tapes of orchestra that I own. This is one of the most un-homogenous recording I have heard. So If you hear it like that, my system is to blame not the recording.

I hear the corvid situation is back in Australia. Please stay safe and be patient with the new normal.

Kind regards,
Tang

 

[Tango]

I Tang,like i wrote in Bruckner thread i bought this vynil
I am no good to post but i will do video and send you on whatsapp
But this time your system with sub and lamm will be better in every parameter

You are very humble Gian. But if that is so, it is because it is summer and you don't have an air conditioner in the room like I do.

 

[ddk]

Now that many people in forum have the Bruckner 7 dtd you can compare mine to your own video using handphone to record this same recording from your system. Of course, no need to post it publicly like me . I find it useful to see where to improve my system by comparing videos with my great friend Gian (whom I never met in person.) He once sent me a recording of his system on Jazz Pawnshop. I compared it to mine and his system beat me badly on staging and spatial info. That was a trigger for me to try to improve my system on that aspect which caused me to remove three absorber panels at front wall behind my speakers. The gap now reduced greatly but his SS CH base system still is better than mine on this regard. There are many great systems in this forum better sounding than those available to hear in commercial places too. Pity I cannot teleport myself to listen in real. Try to understand the limitations of a recording device or hand phone, iphone and samsung also sound a bit different. Use it wisely it could be very beneficial.

I usually record 5.3 meters away from my speakers.

Dear Khun Tang,

I was wondering what was wrong with your system in this video until I played my own copy, F**K ! The recording is harsh and thin, not impressed with performance either what a horrible record set. Better find another album to buy for those interested in comparing videos .

david

 

[Tango]

Dear Khun Tang,

I was wondering what was wrong with your system in this video until I played my own copy, F**K ! The recording is harsh and thin, not impressed with performance either what a horrible record set. Better find another album to buy for those interested in comparing videos .

david

I would like to think my system is quite accurate to source. What you hear in my video is also an approximationof what in the room. Now you hear it in your system the same way you heard from my video. Like I mentioned politely in earlier comment to the General, the sound is on a thin side. I am open minded to the "technique" they used to record this so I accepted it as "different."

 

[ddk]

I would like to think my system is quite accurate to source. What you hear in my video is also an approximationof what in the room. Now you hear it in your system the same way you heard from my video. Like I mentioned politely in another thread the sound is on a thin side. I am open minded to the "technique" they used to record this so I accepted it as "different."

You should have been a diplomat you’re a master of understatement!
I got this set about a month ago but didn’t have the time to open it, I listened to your recording tonight and it sounded yuuch so tried my set here to see what’s going on. My system must be even truer to source than yours because it sounds even more shit here ! I searched the internet for some reviews and came across Fremer’s review drooling over this set, but then he’s usually full of shit, I guess that’s why they invited him to join in !

david

 

[Tango]

You should have been a diplomat you’re a master of understatement!
I got this set about a month ago but didn’t have the time to open it, I listened to your recording tonight and it sounded yuuch so tried my set here to see what’s going on. My system must be even truer to source than yours because it sounds even more shit here ! I searched the internet for some reviews and came across Fremer’s review drooling over this set, but then he’s usually full of shit, I guess that’s why they invited him to join in !

david

And you sir can benefit from attending a course, the Art of Tact and Diplomacy.

The ability to assert your ideas or opinions, knowing what to say and how to say it without damaging the relationship by causing offence.

Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy.

- Isaac Newton

Diplomacy is the art of letting somebody else have your way.

- David Frost

Sorry Khun David. I cannot resist to tease you. It is making me laugh big.

Tang

 

[ddk]

And you sir can benefit from attending a course, the Art of Tact and Diplomacy.

The ability to assert your ideas or opinions, knowing what to say and how to say it without damaging the relationship by causing offence.

Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy.

- Isaac Newton

Diplomacy is the art of letting somebody else have your way.

- David Frost

Sorry Khun David. I cannot resist to tease you. It is making me laugh big.

Tang

Ah, but I wanted to offend .

david

 

[Ron Resnick]

I thought "tact" was the ability to tell a man to go to hell and make him feel happy to be on his way.

 

[manisandher]

The recording is harsh and thin...

It doesn't sound at all like that here.

Mani.

 

[ddk]

It doesn't sound at all like that here.

Mani.

The LP set?
david

 

[Tango]

It doesn't sound at all like that here.

Mani.

Yes. I heard your recording. Very digferent in tone with your system.