Apparently Bill got over his stated aversion to plastic horns with their plastic coloration. That makes me feel better about my Oris150 horns.
Visit to Audiophile Bill to hear his horns project
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like my sailing boatThat’ll be due to the Pnoe being manufactured out of high density fibreglass
His BD swings also had a driver, BMS, with plastic diaphragm. I have heard that driver cause plastic colour in a horn made by plaster of Paris/concrete mix
In principlelike my sailing boat
Yes, because he pays to advertise here.
But to the credit of this site, it is his forum, which is meant for his products only. So he can basically say what he wants, or doesn’t want to, on that forum specifically.
Bill should not have left - it does give the impression that the other guy “won” when you don’t show up to the fight.
Update on my horns:
The crossovers are now wall mounted, which added more stability to vocals and instruments, extended decay, and a more cohesive soundstage (vs standing them on the floor and leaning against a wall).
I didn’t go in Bill’s direction. My views on single driver vs multi-driver sound be clear. There is also a 6’ tall active transmission line sub (not pictured). If you want to play the breadth of music available, one driver won’t cut it, for the simple reason that no single (or dual) driver exists that can play accurately across the spectrum.
A simple crossover with high quality components will not deteriorate the sound. While these speakers were being built, I had an open baffle JL Labs design with single RCA “high frequency” woofers. They were nice, but could never compete with these.
I also agree with Weiss at OMAthat only conical horns add no distortion to the sound and have the widest sweet spot.
Time alignment is also critical - most of these large horn projects are not time aligned.You can certainly have a great and fun sound from non time-aligned drivers; but with multiple horns the affects are usually greater than with conventional drivers (eg, Magico).
The crossovers are now wall mounted, which added more stability to vocals and instruments, extended decay, and a more cohesive soundstage (vs standing them on the floor and leaning against a wall).
I didn’t go in Bill’s direction. My views on single driver vs multi-driver sound be clear. There is also a 6’ tall active transmission line sub (not pictured). If you want to play the breadth of music available, one driver won’t cut it, for the simple reason that no single (or dual) driver exists that can play accurately across the spectrum.
A simple crossover with high quality components will not deteriorate the sound. While these speakers were being built, I had an open baffle JL Labs design with single RCA “high frequency” woofers. They were nice, but could never compete with these.
I also agree with Weiss at OMA
that only conical horns add no distortion to the sound and have the widest sweet spot.Time alignment is also critical - most of these large horn projects are not time aligned.You can certainly have a great and fun sound from non time-aligned drivers; but with multiple horns the affects are usually greater than with conventional drivers (eg, Magico).
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Do you know what is the material being used in current Avantgarde horns?
How is your post relevant to the thread topic ! I would recommend that you start your own project thread … As to your assertion regarding a simple stave and plank conical wave guide construction being the apogee of horn design might you enlighten us further.
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Because I had discussed my horns with Bill on this thread. Actually, you had asked for more information here?!
I have no further desire to post - you can do you own research!
(I see you have built a fairly negative following here on WBF - read some recent comments. Thanks for the +1 on the Ignore list. I have no time for zero value added comments.)
no I don´t
but my latest top horns are CNC´d in waterproof MDF and all abs/plastic horns are out of my system
Bill was speaking in most positive terms about your new upper range horns, I hope that we might hear a few audio vids of your newly modified horn array
abs plastic last info i know.abs also has a problem uv light must be painted very well.
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