This whole "I am there" vs. "They are here" thing has deteriorated into nonsense. It's really grasping at descriptors and distinctions that just reinforce prior opinions.
We're all biased by experience, but that doesn't mean we can't gain additional experiences as we go. You seem to have made a lot of assumptions, TBH. I've changed directions and opinions on the best way to achieve the sound I have in my head many times over. The tube recording vs reproduction was a response to a previous post. And I haven't said that all SS is transparent. It most certainly is not. Class A is generally not transparent. Class AB is generally more so. Benchmark AHB2 fits the bill as a highly transparent SS amplifier, as one example.
Lastly, I'm really not sure what "they are here" means for orchestra. But if a listening room and chain can faithfully reproduce "you are there" for orchestral pieces - that's impressive. Mine has no hope.
This whole "I am there" vs. "They are here" thing has deteriorated into nonsense. It's really grasping at descriptors and distinctions that just reinforce prior opinions.
Class A is generally not transparent. Class AB is generally more so.
When a woman cough stage right up stage seemingly after Richter starts his part in the sonata, it’s honestly no added benefit to the effect, other than it seems to tell me a little about the hall, but I find her coughing annoying, and wish she were replaced by the quiet girl in the cafe to be honest
Not arguing with your conclusion, just curious how it was reached. What sonic attributes of the class A amps do you find most objectionable?
There is a very prominent cough in the first few minutes of the Schreier / Richter winterreise on Melodiya. With SS phono you can really see deep into the guy's throat, and the gargle of the cough. With valve phonos the cough gets a bit rounded and sounds closer to me. It is more attacking and repulsive with the SS phono, and with the valve phono, I actually wished he continued to cough more. I have been to three winterreise concerts and each time a guy coughed, reminding me of how accurately my system produces the cough at home.
On another note, this recording for its hall ambience as well as both performers, I prefer to the Dietrich Fischer Landau / Gerald Moore where the voice is more close to the mike as in a studio, and the piano is less prominent
There is a very prominent cough in the first few minutes of the Schreier / Richter winterreise on Melodiya. With SS phono you can really see deep into the guy's throat, and the gargle of the cough. With valve phonos the cough gets a bit rounded and sounds closer to me. It is more attacking and repulsive with the SS phono, and with the valve phono, I actually wished he continued to cough more. I have been to three winterreise concerts and each time a guy coughed, reminding me of how accurately my system produces the cough at home.
There is a very prominent cough in the first few minutes of the Schreier / Richter winterreise on Melodiya. With SS phono you can really see deep into the guy's throat, and the gargle of the cough. With valve phonos the cough gets a bit rounded and sounds closer to me. It is more attacking and repulsive with the SS phono, and with the valve phono, I actually wished he continued to cough more. I have been to three winterreise concerts and each time a guy coughed, reminding me of how accurately my system produces the cough at home.
On another note, this recording for its hall ambience as well as both performers, I prefer to the Dietrich Fischer Landau / Gerald Moore where the voice is more close to the mike as in a studio, and the piano is less prominent
If I feel transported to that small cafe with the girl singing in front of me, she is still there singing in front of me with the sound, acoustic and atmosphere of the cafe. If I don't hear all of that ambiance, then the perspective may seem more like she is in front of me in my listening room. I think it depends on what information is on the recording and if the system can reproduce it in a convincing manner.
However recently there has been a trend to put class A with low or no NFB
Not arguing with your conclusion, just curious how it was reached. What sonic attributes of the class A amps do you find most objectionable?
Yep. Based on what I read, it looks like I was right
I read, therefore I am (right)
No....No; I write therefore i am right
“They are here” vs “You are there” depends a lot on amplification design. An SET brings performers into the room. Push-Pull takes listener to the venue. That’s the difference Mike also heard when he compared ML3 vs Dartzeel. It is not SS vs Tube but SET vs Push-Pull
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