The Lowly Toslink

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Toslink is the Rodney Dangerfield of digital cables. It just can't get no respect.

It gets so little respect, in fact, that my cursory search of What's Best titles show only three articles with "Toslink" in the title. It's either assumed to be an also-ran (or worse) or it's just a yawner for most.

One of the three posts shows higher jitter figures for Toslink than for coax. One other does compare Toslink with some other types of cable connections. In this second post it does appear that the writer found the Toslink to be sonically superior to an adaptive mode USB connection. But that article appears to be outdated since in recent years most everyone has settled on asynchronous USB connections.

Thus, I thought I'd weigh in on the issue of Toslink quality and relate my subjective findings over many years of using USB, coax, and Toslink connections with a variety of digital sources and DACs. In short, I find the best Toslink connections to sound fully competitive with the best USB and coax digital connections I've been able to muster. If you favor a relaxed, easy sound over a hyper-detailed sound, Toslink may be your best choice.

First let me state that even with the most jitter-resistant modern DACs such as the Benchmark DAC-3 DX (with its Ultralock3 jitter attenuation system which allows practically instantaneous A/B switching between digital inputs) I'm currently using to drive my Janszen Valentina Active speakers, I find the choice of digital interface cable to be easily audible. Differences are apparent in seconds. Judgments as to whether a perceived difference is better or worse have taken me at most about an hour to determine, usually much less, on the order of a few minutes of comparative listening.

Next let me quickly mention that as much variability as there is between the sound resulting from various brands of digital coax and USB cables--and that variability is considerable--Toslink cables vary even more, probably an order of magnitude more. Some, even most Toslink cables sound (1) terribly colored (too dull, too bright/edgy, or too midrange projected), (2) add a gauzy veil over the sound, (3) add a smeary distortion of instrumental sounds (4) truncation of the sonic stage in terms of width and/or depth, or (5) smear image placement. I have owned many Toslink cables and have discarded most of them. These problems with most Toslink cables may well by why the genre can't get any respect.

However, the best Toslink cables in my experience--specifically, the Blue Jeans Cable Toslink made with the Mitsubishi Eska Plastic Optical Fiber--has none of these problems. It matches the best coax and USB digital interfaces I've heard in all of these areas. In addition, it brings to the table the following seemingly unique virtues: (1) a smoother high end devoid of blasty/blarey distortion on high-level high frequency transients; (2) a seemingly blacker background; (3) exemplary stable and precise soundstaging and imaging in all dimensions; (4) a larger soundstage than most other digital cables; (5) seemingly increased macro dynamic range; (6) exemplary micro-dynamic detail; and (7) exemplary clarity without the slightest bit of high frequency edge, grit, or grain.

In my present system, I have run A/B/C comparisons of the Blue Jeans Cable Toslink against coax and USB digital cables connecting a Squeezebox Touch (with the Enhanced Digital Output aftermarket software) running Tidal connected directly to the digital inputs of the Benchmark DAC3 DX, then to the Janszen Valentina Active speakers or to my Audeze LCD-4 headphones. The Squeezebox Touch is the only component I have which can output digital signals in USB, coax, and Toslink formats. I have tried this with only a single digital connection between the Squeezebox Touch and Benchmark, and with two or three simultaneous digital connections of the different types between the two components.

I have also done A/B/C comparisons of three different devices streaming Tidal to the Benchmark DAC. In this system I can stream Tidal directly from my EVS-modified Oppo BDP-105D (via coax or via HDMI through a Kanex DeEmbedder), from my iPhone via AirPlay to an Apple Airport Express connected to the Benchmark DAC using Toslink, or from the Squeezebox Touch connected by any or all three types of cable.

The coax used for such comparisons is either the Blue Jeans Cable Coax Digital or the Apogee WydeEye D/A, which are the two best-sounding digital coax cables I've found. The USB cable is the Oyaide NEO d+ Class A cable which I've found to handily best all other USB cables I've tried, including some very pricey pure silver cables from WireWorld.

For example, in comparison to the Oyaide NEO d+ Class A USB cable between the Squeezebox Touch and Benchmark DAC-3 DX, the Blue Jeans Toslink is equally resolving, but distinctly less bright. Heard on its own, the Oyaide USB connection sounds terrific. It matches the best coax digital connections from the Squeezebox to Benchmark. But there is no denying that the Blue Jeans Toslink has an easier, more relaxed, bit fuller sound without giving up any audible detail. Some may favor the subjective sound qualities of the USB or coax connections. But to my ears, by comparison, the USB and coax connections sound a bit etched and bright, if not actually fatiguing since they sound perfectly fine on their own. But switching to the Blue Jeans Toslink elicits from me a sigh of relief and instantly greater involvement with the music.

I can also say that, in my experience, the goodness of the Blue Jeans Cable Toslink cable manifests itself immediately but the cable does, like other cables, seem to sonically further improve over the space of a couple of days while it is connected and carrying signal. It also sounds yet better when this cable is the only digital connection between the source and the DAC. I speculate that that last finding may be because the galvanic isolation an optical fiber connection provides is best when there are no conductive signal grounds between the source and DAC, as there are when either a USB or coax digital cable connects source and DAC.

My subjective sonic conclusion is based not only on this one current system, but also years of comparing different digital interfaces in several other systems I've owned in the past and used in different rooms. These conclusions have remained stable for me over time. One can argue that I just haven't found the best cables, or that my comparisons aren't valid for various other reasons. Feel free to comment based on your own experience comparing such connections.


 
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Toslink is the Rodney Dangerfield of digital cables. It just can't get no respect.

It gets so little respect, in fact, that my cursory search of What's Best titles show only three articles with "Toslink" in the title. It's either assumed to be an also-ran (or worse) or it's just a yawner for most.

One of the three posts shows higher jitter figures for Toslink than for coax. One other does compare Toslink with some other types of cable connections. In this second post it does appear that the writer found the Toslink to be sonically superior to an adaptive mode USB connection. But that article appears to be outdated since in recent years most everyone has settled on asynchronous USB connections.

Thus, I thought I'd weigh in on the issue of Toslink quality and relate my subjective findings over many years of using USB, coax, and Toslink connections with a variety of digital sources and DACs. In short, I find the best Toslink connections to sound fully competitive with the best USB and coax digital connections I've been able to muster. If you favor a relaxed, easy sound over a hyper-detailed sound, Toslink may be your best choice.

First let me state that even with the most jitter-resistant modern DACs such as the Benchmark DAC-3 DX (with its Ultralock3 jitter attenuation system which allows practically instantaneous A/B switching between digital inputs) I'm currently using to drive my Janszen Valentina Active speakers, I find the choice of digital interface cable to be easily audible. Differences are apparent in seconds. Judgments as to whether a perceived difference is better or worse have taken me at most about an hour to determine, usually much less, on the order of a few minutes of comparative listening.

Next let me quickly mention that as much variability as there is between the sound resulting from various brands of digital coax and USB cables--and that variability is considerable--Toslink cables vary even more, probably an order of magnitude more. Some, even most Toslink cables sound (1) terribly colored (too dull, too bright/edgy, or too midrange projected), (2) add a gauzy veil over the sound, (3) add a smeary distortion of instrumental sounds (4) truncation of the sonic stage in terms of width and/or depth, or (5) smear image placement. I have owned many Toslink cables and have discarded most of them. These problems with most Toslink cables may well by why the genre can't get any respect.

However, the best Toslink cables in my experience--specifically, the Blue Jeans Cable Toslink made with the Mitsubishi Eska Plastic Optical Fiber--has none of these problems. It matches the best coax and USB digital interfaces I've heard in all of these areas. In addition, it brings to the table the following seemingly unique virtues: (1) a smoother high end devoid of blasty/blarey distortion on high-level high frequency transients; (2) a seemingly blacker background; (3) exemplary stable and precise soundstaging and imaging in all dimensions; (4) a larger soundstage than most other digital cables; (5) seemingly increased macro dynamic range; (6) exemplary micro-dynamic detail; and (7) exemplary clarity without the slightest bit of high frequency edge, grit, or grain.

In my present system, I have run A/B/C comparisons of the Blue Jeans Cable Toslink against coax and USB digital cables connecting a Squeezebox Touch (with the Enhanced Digital Output aftermarket software) running Tidal connected directly to the digital inputs of the Benchmark DAC3 DX, then to the Janszen Valentina Active speakers or to my Audeze LCD-4 headphones. The Squeezebox Touch is the only component I have which can output digital signals in USB, coax, and Toslink formats. I have tried this with only a single digital connection between the Squeezebox Touch and Benchmark, and with two or three simultaneous digital connections of the different types between the two components.

I have also done A/B/C comparisons of three different devices streaming Tidal to the Benchmark DAC. In this system I can stream Tidal directly from my EVS-modified Oppo BDP-105D (via coax or via HDMI through a Kanex DeEmbedder), from my iPhone via AirPlay to an Apple Airport Express connected to the Benchmark DAC using Toslink, or from the Squeezebox Touch connected by any or all three types of cable.

The coax used for such comparisons is either the Blue Jeans Cable Coax Digital or the Apogee WydeEye D/A, which are the two best-sounding digital coax cables I've found. The USB cable is the Oyaide NEO d+ Class A cable which I've found to handily best all other USB cables I've tried, including some very pricey pure silver cables from WireWorld.

For example, in comparison to the Oyaide NEO d+ Class A USB cable between the Squeezebox Touch and Benchmark DAC-3 DX, the Blue Jeans Toslink is equally resolving, but distinctly less bright. Heard on its own, the Oyaide USB connection sounds terrific. It matches the best coax digital connections from the Squeezebox to Benchmark. But there is no denying that the Blue Jeans Toslink has an easier, more relaxed, bit fuller sound without giving up any audible detail. Some may favor the subjective sound qualities of the USB or coax connections. But to my ears, by comparison, the USB and coax connections sound a bit etched and bright, if not actually fatiguing since they sound perfectly fine on their own. But switching to the Blue Jeans Toslink elicits from me a sigh of relief and instantly greater involvement with the music.

I can also say that, in my experience, the goodness of the Blue Jeans Cable Toslink cable manifests itself immediately but the cable does, like other cables, seem to sonically further improve over the space of a couple of days while it is connected and carrying signal. It also sounds yet better when this cable is the only digital connection between the source and the DAC. I speculate that that last finding may be because the galvanic isolation an optical fiber connection provides is best when there are no conductive signal grounds between the source and DAC, as there are when either a USB or coax digital cable connects source and DAC.

My subjective sonic conclusion is based not only on this one current system, but also years of comparing different digital interfaces in several other systems I've owned in the past and used in different rooms. These conclusions have remained stable for me over time. One can argue that I just haven't found the best cables, or that my comparisons aren't valid for various other reasons. Feel free to comment based on your own experience comparing such connections.
I did in fact contact BlueJeans Cable asking if their Toslink cable still used the Mitsubishi Eska Plastic Optical Fiber.

Here is their reply:
“We did in fact stock the Mitsubishi ESKA POF for many years. We have since (within the last three years or so) moved to a different supplier (DAPOF) that was able to provide an extremely similar spec'ed cable, and additionally able to provide us with a branded cable stock.”
 
In my AV system I still use a toslink cable (this one from Benchmark) to connect the audio out of my Sony OLED TV to my Lyngdorf TDAI-3400. My Lyngdorf unit does not have the HDMI option so I am not able to use HDMI as a digital connection.

Still, I have no complaints at all about the toslink-based sound in this system. The audio accompanying my streaming video is absolutely stellar through my AR-303a speakers in that system. The audio of that system is a source of endless joy. There is nothing about the sound accompanying video I would want to change. And, believe me, that is a rare thing for me to say.
 
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Toslink provides galvanic isolation and other benefits. I use it for my digital connections but I do not try to be on the bleeding edge of the high data rate files.

Glass fiber toslink was available.

 
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I tried the Lifatec glass cables once upon a time. I was not impressed. These were definitely in the "too bright" and overly etched catgory. Not pleasant to listen to at all. The Blue Jeans and Benchmark are far more musical and satisfying; it's not even close, in my opinion.
 
Interesting that you found the glass so different. Given it is just light transfer one would expect different.

I have been using a lower end audioquest and see no need to experiment. I lean more to the analog side so my digital curiosity is limited.
 
I use Toslink, with a twist - ElectroTos:


It requires a small modification to a source, which is what I have done with my WiiM streamer and M2Thech ADC. It can then be used with any DAC as the Toslink LED is simply placed at the end of a cable and inserted into the Toslink input cmjack of the DAC.
 
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(7) exemplary clarity without the slightest bit of high frequency edge, grit, or grain.
Yes. I am looking for a Toslink cable.
What intrigued me most about your Blue Jeans Toslink cable review was this part: “exemplary clarity without the slightest bit of high frequency edge, grit, or grain.” (I was somewhat disappointed that Blue Jeans had moved away from the Mitsubishi Eska Plastic Optical Fiber.)
I tried the Lifatec glass cables once upon a time. I was not impressed. These were definitely in the "too bright" and overly etched catgory. Not pleasant to listen to at all. The Blue Jeans and Benchmark are far more musical and satisfying; it's not even close, in my opinion.

I have an Analysis Plus Toslink cable that is (to put it nicely) a bit too detailed (read cold, bright, etched). I have, also, an inexpensive Warrky Toslink cable that is warmer and fuller without the high frequency edge or brightness, but less detailed than the AP cable.

I guess I am seeking a cable that exhibits the best of both worlds: “exemplary clarity” plus a rich, full, “musical” sound signature. From most of what I have read, true glass cables offer plenty of detail but at the expense of any warmth or richness. This I do not want.

Could your Benchmark Toslink cable be the cable I am seeking?
 
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Yes. I am looking for a Toslink cable.
What intrigued me most about your Blue Jeans Toslink cable review was this part: “exemplary clarity without the slightest bit of high frequency edge, grit, or grain.” (I was somewhat disappointed that Blue Jeans had moved away from the Mitsubishi Eska Plastic Optical Fiber.)


I have an Analysis Plus Toslink cable that is (to put it nicely) a bit too detailed (read cold, sharp, etched, thin). I have, also, an inexpensive Warrky Toslink cable that is warmer and fuller without the high frequency edge or brightness, but less detailed than the AP cable.

I guess I am seeking a cable that exhibits the best of both worlds: “exemplary clarity” plus a rich, full, “musical” sound signature. From most of what I have read, true glass cables offer plenty of detail but at the expense of any warmth or richness. This I do not want.

Could your Benchmark Toslink cable be the cable I am seeking?

There are differences in Toslink cables, but it is very doubtful that those differences have the effects that you mention. If you are looking for exemplarité clarity and musicalité you should probably look for other issues in your system than the Toslink cable…
 
There are differences in Toslink cables, but it is very doubtful that those differences have the effects that you mention. If you are looking for exemplarité clarity and musicalité you should probably look for other issues in your system than the Toslink cable…
Thanks for suggesting this.
Doubtful or not these are the differences I hear when the only music I am listening to is the signal sent through the Toslink cables, and the only change made to reveal these differences is to switch from one cable to the other.
 
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Thanks for suggesting this.
Doubtful or not these are the differences I hear when the only music I am listening to is the signal sent through the Toslink cables, and the only change made to reveal these differences is to switch from one cable to the other.
Those are the mysteries of digital audio!

Someone highly recommended this cable to me, which I ordered, and honestly it changed nothing with respect to a standard Toslink cable:

 
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Those are the mysteries of digital audio!

Someone highly recommended this cable to me, which I ordered, and honestly it changed nothing with respect to a standard Toslink cable:

Yes. I don’t doubt that most POF Toslink cables sound the same, (and some glass ones sound worse).

Hey, there’s a thought: maybe I should order ten different cheap Toslink cables off of Amazon. Maybe there’s a random chance of a fluke that one will sound better.

Sometimes audio is like stumbling around in the dark, hoping you bump into something good.
 
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I have to admit I don’t fully understand why the system is setup the way it is. So basically it’s squeezebox touch feeding Benchmark DAC feeding analog stereo to the Active speakers which would take the analog signal, run an ADC on it, digitally crossover the signals and then run through the speakers’ internal DAC and feed the amps and drivers of the speakers.

If the fundamental problem is that the digital input of the active speakers are not good at handling electrical noise or jitter, to me, it would make more sense just to get a USB to coaxial converter that has good clocking and low jitter and you can just connect the converter from Squeezebox touch directly to the digital input of the speakers.

Granted I currently use the very cheap Duok Audio USB to coaxial S/PDIF converter but I’m sure if you need to, you can find some higher end ones with less noise and less jitter. I think sky is the limit like the Berkeley Alpha interface in terms of price. I just assume in general, less is more. And you get more money back by selling the Benchmark
 

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