Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

Christiaan Punter

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There is no such thing as a "USB-spec compliant printer cable." All USB cables are either USB compliant or not, a printer is a device that, if implementing USB for I/O and / or power needs to adhere to USB specs like any other USB - capable device.
Indeed, "printer cable" is just an expression to indicate an "el-cheapo" standard USB cable.
 

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I'm no longer sure if I can decipher the difference between default/alternative in NSM. At first I thought I heard an uptick in alternative. I'll play around some more. Bottom line NSM sounds DAMN GOOD!
 

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there is no taskmaster. It is called task manager. If you right click on the task bar it comes up in the context menu. Click on task manager and stop the services XDMS player and XDMS server. Then close the task manager and run Roon. You can then go to your tablet and Roon should be running.

Many thanks. Needless to say it worked.
 
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With removal of the (very good) Ediscreation extreme switch in front of Taiko switch, I had a loss of big scale dynamics, of thrust, impact.

Meanwhile the Taiko router and dc distributor have arrived.
Setup was done without problems, to my considerable surprise.
There are a few things in my life I am good at, things digital certainly NOT among them.
I did succeed:)

Initial impressions were nice, a very relaxed presentation, very likable, but nothing to get excited about.
12hours later things had changed. Quite a lot.
Impact, thrust, vigour, excitement are back, big time.
Now some 24hours more.
Deep bass reproduction had been raved about by others here before.
They all … were and are bloody well right.
Deep bass instruments are reproduced with vigour, intensity and a depth now I haven’t had ever before.
But there is more to it.
Fine textural details, a naturalness, which really did impress me.
But most of all, fine small scale dynamic variations which make the musicians’ expression, their intent in interpretatio, the meaning in their music - they are here to a degree I didn’t think possible with bloody digital.
In deep bass and … elsewhere!


I am in this hobby more than fourty years.
A few components had made me truly enthusiastic.
The gold coil Hul Grasshopper prototype, one of three, in my turntable.
The Apogee Scintillas.
This is in the same league.
Astonishingly, it does keep getting better and better.

Thank you!
 
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With removal of the (very good) Ediscreation extreme switch in front of Taiko switch, I had a loss of big scale dynamics, of thrust, impact.

Meanwhile the Taiko router and dc distributor have arrived.
Setup was done without problems, to my considerable surprise.
There are a few things in my life I am good at, things digital certainly among them.
I did succeed:)

Initial impressions were nice, a very relaxed presentation, very likable, but nothing to get excited about.
12hours later things had changed. Quite a lot.
Impact, thrust, vigour, excitement are back, big time.
Now some 24hours more.
Deep bass reproduction had been raved about by others here before.
They all … were and are bloody well right.
Deep bass instruments are reproduced with vigour, intensity and a depth now I haven’t had ever before.
But there is more to it.
Fine textural details, a naturalness, which really did impress me.
But most of all, fine small scale dynamic variations which make the musicians’ expression, their intent in interpretatio, the meaning in their music - they are here to a degree I didn’t think possible with bloody digital.
In deep bass and … elsewhere!


I am in this hobby more than fourty years.
A few components had made me truly enthusiastic.
The gold coil Hul Grasshopper prototype, one of three, in my turntable.
The Apogee Scintillas.
This is in the same league.
Astonishingly, it does keep getting better and better.

Thank you!

Sounds like you’re getting an early start on some end of year fireworks :)

More to come in 2024 !

Happy New Year everybody !
 

SeungHo Choi

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With removal of the (very good) Ediscreation extreme switch in front of Taiko switch, I had a loss of big scale dynamics, of thrust, impact.

Meanwhile the Taiko router and dc distributor have arrived.
Setup was done without problems, to my considerable surprise.
There are a few things in my life I am good at, things digital certainly NOT among them.
I did succeed:)

Initial impressions were nice, a very relaxed presentation, very likable, but nothing to get excited about.
12hours later things had changed. Quite a lot.
Impact, thrust, vigour, excitement are back, big time.
Now some 24hours more.
Deep bass reproduction had been raved about by others here before.
They all … were and are bloody well right.
Deep bass instruments are reproduced with vigour, intensity and a depth now I haven’t had ever before.
But there is more to it.
Fine textural details, a naturalness, which really did impress me.
But most of all, fine small scale dynamic variations which make the musicians’ expression, their intent in interpretatio, the meaning in their music - they are here to a degree I didn’t think possible with bloody digital.
In deep bass and … elsewhere!


I am in this hobby more than fourty years.
A few components had made me truly enthusiastic.
The gold coil Hul Grasshopper prototype, one of three, in my turntable.
The Apogee Scintillas.
This is in the same league.
Astonishingly, it does keep getting better and better.

Thank you!

Are you going to take out Ediscreation now?
I wonder which combination will sound the best.
 

engadin

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Are you going to take out Ediscreation now?
I wonder which combination will sound the best.
I will have to retry the Ediscreation with T router & T switch, in front of both.

Next step will be trying to remove the (parallel to T router/Tswitch) Ediscreation without degrading sonics, plugging tv and home office directly into the ips Swisscom router. Hope this works well.
Then I’ll try the Ediscreation in front of all, in the house installation where up to now a netgear gs108e distributes to my and three more flats.

Cheers, Ulrich
 

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Earlier this week @EuroDriver helped me with a support issue - I was unable to connect my new Dac via USB, turned out I needed a new USB driver. I think this was well into the evening for him, but he was really quick to get on the case, and we had a good chat while I watched him sort it out on TeamViewer. Thank you so much Ed, you are as star! Sorry it's taken me a couple of days to get round to this message, I've been glued to my listening seat ever since!
 

Steve Williams

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Earlier this week @EuroDriver helped me with a support issue - I was unable to connect my new Dac via USB, turned out I needed a new USB driver. I think this was well into the evening for him, but he was really quick to get on the case, and we had a good chat while I watched him sort it out on TeamViewer. Thank you so much Ed, you are as star! Sorry it's taken me a couple of days to get round to this message, I've been glued to my listening seat ever since!
we would all be lost sheep with out Ed. The man never sleeps and is always there to help. The praise IMO is indeed well deserved. Ed is 9 time zones ahead of me and is always available
 

dminches

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we would all be lost sheep with out Ed. The man never sleeps and is always there to help. The praise IMO is indeed well deserved. Ed is 9 time zones ahead of me and is always available

+1 regarding Ed. It is amazing how much he has done and how many people he has personally helped.
 

an.vamv

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+1 regarding Ed. It is amazing how much he has done and how many people he has personally helped.

+1 : Ed @EuroDriver is a fantastic person and very professional. He was available on New Year's day to install my NSM as well as the following days to assist with a flashing ASIO driver in Roon around 23.00 at night his time . Great asset to the Taiko team !
 

SwissTom

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The new Taiko Audio dedicated forum :

 

matthias

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The new Taiko Audio dedicated forum :

@Taiko Audio
Does it make sense to integrate the Extreme thread into the new Taiko Audio dedicated forum?
 

Steve Williams

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That would invalidate thousands of external links.
Precisely the reason. The Taiko thread is properly placed in the appropriate subforum and I see it as the place where users can gather and discuss general issues. The Taiko subforum is a wikipedia of all things Taiko
 

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posting here as I believe this topic can’t be severed into one taiko sub thread. Preface w I am fully on Taiko train 4 years running (extreme, switch, router, power distributor) and olympus is on order.

Currently there are numerous permutations to try off the taiko power distributor w default, alternate and bypass configs. and XDMS NMS currently offers numerous options from straight up alternative or default, or on each of those 4 different aiso driver options. (apologize if i am not getting this exactly correct). overlay that w over a hundred tube combinations with the Horizon etc. all good problems to have w such flexibility. there is a bit of deflation as it appears there is no real consistency for anyone.

But take the Horizon out of the equation, how are we to ascertain the best combination of filters and driver options given the high number of combinations and few dozen dacs in use. but on top of that consistently evolving/improving developments w xdms and integration w olympus - how often will all permutations need to be reevaluated.

Rather than 64 or 128 options to try to experiment with, i would love to know the two or three i should try and set and forget. the permutations are currently overwhelming (for some) and growing. but also what a luxury to fine tune right? i am curious what is the sound profile taiko aims for/recommends. i assume ‘ultimate neutrality’ would be an over simplification given now all the permutations through taiko products. would love to hear from others, taiko etc
 
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Taiko Audio

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posting here as I believe this topic can’t be severed into one taiko sub thread. Preface w I am fully on Taiko train 4 years running (extreme, switch, router, power distributor) and olympus is on order.

Currently there are numerous permutations to try off the taiko power distributor w default, alternate and bypass configs. and XDMS NMS currently offers numerous options from straight up alternative or default, or on each of those 4 different aiso driver options. (apologize if i am not getting this exactly correct). overlay that w over a hundred tube combinations with the Horizon etc. all good problems to have w such flexibility. there is a bit of deflation as it appears there is no real consistency for anyone.

But take the Horizon out of the equation, how are we to ascertain the best combination of filters and driver options given the high number of combinations and few dozen dacs in use. but on top of that consistently evolving/improving developments w xdms and integration w olympus - how often will all permutations need to be reevaluated.

Rather than 64 or 128 options to try to experiment with, i would love to know the two or three i should try and set and forget. the permutations are currently overwhelming (for some) and growing. but also what a luxury to fine tune right? i am curious what is the sound profile taiko aims for/recommends. i assume ‘ultimate neutrality’ would be an over simplification given now all the permutations through taiko products. would love to hear from others, taiko etc

I would go like this:
Switch - default
Router - alt2, too dark, change to default, still too dark, change to alt1

Then try xmds alt or default

Then try the ASIO options

Or just leave everything on default :)
 

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