Taiko Audio Extreme Router

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I have no idea why overall noise floor is lower, for all sources (not just the Extreme and ATVX; i.e., the components connected to the Router) - but I love it!
The only explanation I can think of is that the Router is somehow making the Eero 7 that it is connected to quieter ??
 

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I have no idea why overall noise floor is lower, for all sources (not just the Extreme and ATVX; i.e., the components connected to the Router) - but I love it!
The only explanation I can think of is that the Router is somehow making the Eero 7 that it is connected to quieter ??
Maybe secondary to reducing upstream noise
 

Christiaan Punter

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Has anyone else had difficulty signing into the router settings page (192.168.100.1)?
I have entered the password many times and it's not working...
I have tried it dozens of times -- it's definitely exactly as it appears on the sticker on the underside of the router... this is getting frustrating! I cannot use it without changing the wifi channel...

EDIT: It was the Wifi password to login to the router settings page, not the "password"! Ugh. Spent way too much time trying with the non wifi password. That must have been a setup error at Taiko.

For the purpose of future reference, the text layout on the sticker on the bottom of the Router may leave room for misinterpretation. Please see the clarification below.

There are two text rows, where the left row contains the descriptors for the values on the right.

As follows:

SSID ----> TaikoAudio
WiFi Password ---> xxxxxx

The above is what you need to connect to the Taiko WiFi.

Listed next are the credentials for accessing the Router's Web Interface to make changes to the Router's settings.

As follows:

Username ---> Admin
Password ---> xxxxxx
 
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For the purpose of future reference, the text layout on the sticker on the bottom of the Router may leave room for misinterpretation. Please see the clarification below.

There are two text rows, where the left row contains the descriptors for the values on the right.

As follows:

SSID ----> TaikoAudio
WiFi Password ---> xxxxxx

The above is what you need to connect to the Taiko WiFi.

Listed next are the credentials for accessing the Router's Web Interface to make changes to the Router's settings.

As follows:

Username ---> Admin
Password ---> xxxxxx
In my case the passwords were reversed. Where the sticker says "Wifi Password' it was actually the Router web interface password, and vice-versa. I spent a lot of time trying to troubleshoot why it was not connecting to Wifi and to the router web interface.
 

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How can we access the Extreme desktop through VNC? Apologies if this was discussed, but I don't see it in the manual. When I use the new IP address for the Extreme, it won't connect. The error is "No Route to the Host is Known".
 

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There was a sticker in my router case that has the user name and password on it, in the correct position...
 

Christiaan Punter

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How can we access the Extreme desktop through VNC? Apologies if this was discussed, but I don't see it in the manual. When I use the new IP address for the Extreme, it won't connect. The error is "No Route to the Host is Known".
The Extreme Router creates a dedicated audio network isolated from your home network. By default, you cannot connect from the Taiko network to your home network for file sharing or VNC access. The easiest way around this is by either temporarily connecting your computer to the Taiko Router or temporarily connecting your Extreme server to the home router. Another method is to set up extra Port Forwarding rules on the Extreme Router. While this is not supported as part of the Router's default feature set, we have provided basic guidelines for this in the Router Manual.
 

Christiaan Punter

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In my case the passwords were reversed. Where the sticker says "Wifi Password' it was actually the Router web interface password, and vice-versa. I spent a lot of time trying to troubleshoot why it was not connecting to Wifi and to the router web interface.
Oh, I see. That's not good... I will see if we can send an updated sticker with the correct info. To get that started, can you please send a mail to support@taikoaudio.com with your Router serial number?
 

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The Extreme Router creates a dedicated audio network isolated from your home network. By default, you cannot connect from the Taiko network to your home network for file sharing or VNC access. The easiest way around this is by either temporarily connecting your computer to the Taiko Router or temporarily connecting your Extreme server to the home router. Another method is to set up extra Port Forwarding rules on the Extreme Router. While this is not supported as part of the Router's default feature set, we have provided basic guidelines for this in the Router Manual.
Right, thanks. I’ll try connecting a device to the Taiko WiFi and running VNC. I mainly use it to reboot the extreme.
 

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Oh, I see. That's not good... I will see if we can send an updated sticker with the correct info. To get that started, can you please send a mail to support@taikoaudio.com with your Router serial number?
All good, Ryan already offered .
I just mentioned it here so others try it both ways if it doesn’t work initially.
 

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The increase in clarity is incredible. I’m listening to everything again as I’ve never heard it like this.
Bass can sound leaner however; but it’s probably because it was too bloated before.

I now turn off the upstream router (eero Max 7), as I don’t stream. I’m not sure if there’s an audible difference, I haven’t compared it; but it makes intuitive sense that shutting off the upstream router will physically disconnect the Taiko Router from the upstream network noise.
 

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The increase in clarity is incredible. I’m listening to everything again as I’ve never heard it like this.
Bass can sound leaner however; but it’s probably because it was too bloated before.

I now turn off the upstream router (eero Max 7), as I don’t stream. I’m not sure if there’s an audible difference, I haven’t compared it; but it makes intuitive sense that shutting off the upstream router will physically disconnect the Taiko Router from the upstream network noise.

It's a larger upgrade then you'd expect isn't it :) Admittedly we've gone back and forth many times on whether we even wanted to release a router because of the potential support intensity, it's obviously a much more complex device then a switch, then we went through the same back and forth on adding Wi-Fi as that complicates things even more, but the sonic results more then justify the above average effort one has to invest to incorporate an additional router, designed for audio fidelity, into your network, IMHO.

Due to the very low noise design of the router your sonic balance will be largely influenced by the noise spectrum of the power supply feeding it. This has a modulating effect on the tonal spectrum. Recognising this we developed the DC distributor which has user selectable filters you can use to change the tonal balance. Looking at it from a low frequency output perspective, it's perceived "volume" would increase going from bypass, to ALT1, to Default, to ALT2. This would go accompanied with a sensation of the LF response becoming somewhat less tight with each increase in "volume" or "density". Note this is not measurable in the frequency response at all, these filters merely filter high frequency noise in slightly different ways. An intriguing aspect of our hobby :)
 

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It's a larger upgrade then you'd expect isn't it :)
Absolutely agree.
I still don’t understand why overall noise floor is lower: i.e., nothing playing, DAC off, just listening to background ’hiss’ through the speakers. (Yes, hiss should not even be audible; and DarTZeel is addressing this shortly - it turns out the 18NS preamp is not that well suited to very high efficiency horns; but that’s another topic.)

Therefore, the fact that noise is audible allows me to hear changes, and the Taiko Router absolutely reduced it! My only guess as to why is that it’s somehow made the Eero Max 7 cleaner, in other words it reduced noise in an upstream router?!

Also, the benefits on the A/V side are a significant bonus, which is phenomenal. Video is clearer, audio is more localized, and noise floor is lower.

I did try to connect the Trinnov to the wireless TaikoAudio network; and it didn’t work. I of course do not expect Taiko to support this; but perhaps someone here knows why. The Trinnov Altitude 32 did get an IP and the iOS Trinnov app saw the unit (with the iPad on the Taiko SSID); but I could not connect to the Trinnov - I kept getting a timeout error. Given the great results I got by connecting the Apple TV “X” to the Router (via Ethernet), I thought I should also connect the Trinnov to the Router (via Wifi - Ethernet is not feasible). (The Altitude is a custom PC that performs multichannel audio processing and is controlled by an iPad over a network, similar to the Extreme/XDMS in this regard).
 
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I did try to connect the Trinnov to the wireless TaikoAudio network; and it didn’t work. I of course do not expect Taiko to support this; but perhaps someone here knows why. The Trinnov Altitude 32 did get an IP and the iOS Trinnov app saw the unit (with the iPad on the Taiko SSID); but I could not connect to the Trinnov - I kept getting a timeout error. Given the great results I got by connecting the Apple TV “X” to the Router (via Ethernet), I thought I should also connect the Trinnov to the Router (via Wifi - Ethernet is not feasible). (The Altitude is a custom PC that performs multichannel audio processing and is controlled by an iPad over a network, similar to the Extreme/XDMS in this regard).

So these are 2 separate devices, right? One is Trinnov and the other one is Altitude? And both were connected to the Taiko WiFi and received 192.168.100.xxx IP addresses?
 

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