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KeithR

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Lee, you'd be amazed how hard it is to get a demo at home, even on well regarded models.
But I have to agree with you.
I really really struggle w the UK Kuzma dealer, I wouldn't touch the two GPA Monaco UK dealers, I not going to pay above the odds (£20k) for a TW or SME etc.
I don't rate the £15k AMG.
That leaves Brinkmann and one of my other "left field" tts, the Primary Control Kinea DD
I suspect I might have to pay for the luxury of a home demo of the Kinea, but at least I'd get one.
Brinkmann's a somewhat odd company as they have the Bardo/Oasis with a really good low torque DD motor, but then the Spyder/Balance is belt drive.
 

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Hi Keith, Mr. AP here (Analysis Paralysis) LOL.
I struggle with a lot of low torque belt drives, like the Brinkmann LaGrange and TW AC3, haven't always been convinced by SME, and AMG really doesn't excite me
* no slight intended on these estimable tts and their owners *
For me, high torque is a concept I always return to, or at the very least a drivetrain that transmits motor output as directly close to what idlers and my direct rim drive provide.
This tends to select the Kuzma Stabi M, but I remain a bit unsure of its dark overall balance and tendency for heft over air, but these are just individual tonal preferences.
 
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It’s hard to believe Mark that a dealer wouldn’t offer you a home demo on a piece of kit that costs that much, but if that’s the case then I’d be looking at secondhand at least then you can move it on for little loss if things don’t work out.
 

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Hi Keith, Mr. AP here (Analysis Paralysis) LOL.
I struggle with a lot of low torque belt drives, like the Brinkmann LaGrange and TW AC3, haven't always been convinced by SME, and AMG really doesn't excite me
* no slight intended on these estimable tts and their owners *
For me, high torque is a concept I always return to, or at the very least a drivetrain that transmits motor output as directly close to what idlers and my direct rim drive provide.
This tends to select the Kuzma Stabi M, but I remain a bit unsure of its dark overall balance and tendency for heft over air, but these are just individual tonal preferences.
what do you think of the Oasis white paper on Bmann's website, Mr. AP? haha.

I have a reviewer friend who just replaced his Balance with Kuzma Stabi XL DC...hope to hear it soon. He just wanted a change after many years of Brinkmann.

I have another friend with the Stabi M who just picked up a used Bardo for fun - I'll ask him what the deal is and report back
 

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what do you think of the Oasis white paper on Bmann's website, Mr. AP? haha.

I have a reviewer friend who just replaced his Balance with Kuzma Stabi XL DC...hope to hear it soon. He just wanted a change after many years of Brinkmann.

I have another friend with the Stabi M who just picked up a used Bardo for fun - I'll ask him what the deal is and report back
Interested in knowing between the stabi M (which is the only kuzma I like) and a DD
 

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The q to you Keith is why you feel the desire to swap out the Bardo when the SP10R arrives?
 

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KeithR

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The q to you Keith is why you feel the desire to swap out the Bardo when the SP10R arrives?
1) I dj'd for years on Technics, so major nostalgia
2) Technics can spend $$ on r&d unlike audiophile companies and at the same time cost half as much

Some of it though will depend on plinth options. I can't use a big, tall TT being in a wheelchair.
 

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...Some of it though will depend on plinth options. I can't use a big, tall TT being in a wheelchair.
Since it's the same footprint the plinth options are pretty well known. Even better (I know some will gasp in horror) have a rack or isolation table built to the height you want and have holes cut to drop the motor and tonearm in!
 

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Erik, are you planning to get in the Primary Control Kinea? It was a fruitless task to try and hear the Torqueo, but the Kinea is on my radar too.