REL No. 25

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use a pair of REL gibralter G1s - sealed box & AB Amp not the usual ported / bash plate amp all boom & thud used in home cimema
usually don,t hear them at all X/over @ 35hz until deep bass arrives & then deep , quick , tuneful LFE & as quick as my Stats

god knows what six of them them sounds like , but of dub or organ music & the floors rattle
 

Al M.

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I have not heard the 25 - yet. However, I have heard the 212/SE. In my opinion, it was hugely better than their older downward firing subs, which I always thought were real "thud buckets" every time I heard them. Not so here.
I have an old downward firing REL, the Storm III. It stands on an ASC subtrap, which makes all the difference -- no "thud bucket" here. There are comments by others on my system thread about the seriously fast bass of high quality in my system.

ASC subtrap:

http://www.acousticsciences.com/products/subtrap

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Edit: I would expect that a subtrap would benefit forward firing subs as well. I certainly wouldn't want to live without one anymore, regardless.
 
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LL21

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I have an old downward firing REL, the Storm III. It stands on an ASC subtrap, which makes all the difference -- no "thud bucket" here. There are comments by others on my system thread about the seriously fast bass of high quality in my system.

ASC subtrap:

http://www.acousticsciences.com/products/subtrap

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Edit: I would expect that a subtrap would benefit forward firing subs as well. I certainly wouldn't want to live without one anymore, regardless.
Fascinating...i have huge benefits from our Auralex subwoofer isolation platform. But its not 22" off the floor, and with designers like ASC, that is a very compelling solution. I wonder how they compare? by any chance, did you ever look into or speak with anyone about the Auralex subwoofer platform?

The Velodyne DD18+ was too big for it...so i got a different Auralex which is the same design as their Subwoofer platform, but bigger.
 

Al M.

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Fascinating...i have huge benefits from our Auralex subwoofer isolation platform. But its not 22" off the floor, and with designers like ASC, that is a very compelling solution. I wonder how they compare? by any chance, did you ever look into or speak with anyone about the Auralex subwoofer platform?

The Velodyne DD18+ was too big for it...so i got a different Auralex which is the same design as their Subwoofer platform, but bigger.
Great to hear that you also have good experiences with a platform under the subwoofer. I had not heard about the Auralex platform before. I wonder if the biggest ASC subtrap (22 inches wide) would be wide enough for a subwoofer as large as yours, but if not I am sure ASC would be willing to make a custom product. They manufacture custom products all the time. -- I use the 18 inch wide subtrap.
 

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Hello,

Going back to the topick, anybody with Rel 25 in their system? Any comparisons?
Thanks,

VPN
 

Jim Smith

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I have a pair of 212SE's in our listening room, I am more than impressed. You cannot tell there are subs on until there are bass notes present and a few simultaneous bass lines are a revelation. Although the 212SE subs (2 active/2 passive 12"/1000watt amps) deliver power and authority in the bass region, which changes for the better the soundstage, the depth, the midrange and even the high end, I am most impressed with the bass note nuances, harmonics, decay and texture.

I am thinking of putting the 25 six pack in, but I don't want to mess with the one pair of 212SE's as the sound is so good.
Agreed.

Best REL sub, IMO.
 

VPN

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Agreed.

Best REL sub, IMO.
Hello Jim,

Have you had the opportunity to audition the REL 25? How do they compare with the REL 212SE or REL G1 mk2?

Cheers,

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Jim Smith

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Hello Jim,

Have you had the opportunity to audition the REL 25? How do they compare with the REL 212SE or REL G1 mk2?

Cheers,

VPN
I have worked with the 25. But to be fair to REL, I have not done an a/b with the 212 SE in the same room, nor have I with the G1. It is only my considered opinion that I prefer the 212 SE for it's tuneful agility.

The 25 may be better, but it's not been my experience - though many may disagree...
 

Ron Resnick

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#29
This is not a directly relevant data point, but a friend of mine who uses a pair of 212s with panel speakers prefers them to the larger driver subwoofers (not RELs) he used previously.

I think it definitely is the case that we cannot assume the REL No. 25 is going to be better than the 212 in all situations.
 
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This is not a directly relevant data point, but a friend of mine who uses a pair of 212s with panel speakers prefers them to the larger driver subwoofers (not RELs) he used previously.

I think it definitely is the case that we cannot assume the REL No. 25 is going to be better than the 212 in all situations.
FWIW, in discussing this with 2 different dealers regarding my Wilsons, they both state that the 212 is audibly 'slower' than the 25 and thus matching to the mains in that respect is important.
 

Jim Smith

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FWIW, in discussing this with 2 different dealers regarding my Wilsons, they both state that the 212 is audibly 'slower' than the 25 and thus matching to the mains in that respect is important.
And how much more do the dealers get if you purchase the 25s?
 
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