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I'm looking at purchasing a house that has a very large basement (almost 3000sqft) with a 31x17x9'4" kids playroom. The flooring is carpet covered concrete. The ceiling is a drop ceiling I would have converted to a standard drywall ceiling. After conversion of the ceiling the room would be roughly 31x17x9'6". A little lower ceiling than I like but the house is in Kentucky, and in that part of the country >10ft ceilings are rare. If I didn't use the basement, the best upstairs room I would have is an office that's 17x13x10, a little on the small side.

Would that basement playroom turn out to be a good room? Certainly enough cubic volume. I ran the dimensions through a mode calculator and it didn't appear bad below 200hz but I am far from an expert. This room would be 2 channel only and have no furniture other than equipment racks and seating.

Thanks in advance.

Ian
South Florida (for now)
 
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Those are very close to the dimensions of my room. There is no reason you can’t make a great sounding room with that space, it all depends on what you’re starting with and where you want to go. Of course, how much you are willing to spend—it will always be about the compromises you make.

I did a full acoustic remodel, gutted the room, etc. My goal was a pleasing aesthetic and sound treatments hidden. My write up is in the thread

'Wilson & ARC for me...'
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wilson-arc-for-me.15727/
 

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Those are very close to the dimensions of my room. There is no reason you can’t make a great sounding room with that space, it all depends on what you’re starting with and where you want to go. Of course, how much you are willing to spend—it will always be about the compromises you make.

I did a full acoustic remodel, gutted the room, etc. My goal was a pleasing aesthetic and sound treatments hidden. My write up is in the thread

'Wilson & ARC for me...'
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wilson-arc-for-me.15727/

Thanks for the response. I had told my broker nothing less than 10 ft ceilings which makes it difficult in Kentucky. I live in Florida now where nearly all ceilings (for modern homes) are 10-12 ft. In Kentucky for 10ft 1st floor (mostly), 10ft 2nd floor (very infrequently), 10 ft basement (haven't seen one yet). Wife has already signed off on me doing anything I want to the room, funds permitting. Maybe I will go forward with it. It's at the top of my budget and I really don't want to leave Florida, but it's impossible to find a house with a large dedicated music room here for less than $2mm. For those that aren't familiar with Florida, prices are up 25-30% over a year ago, and hurricanes are getting worse every year. Might be time to move on.

edit...pictures of the room below. Right now a kid's playroom. Completely enclosed. 1st of doors (on left) leads to 9x12 room I'd make a man cave. Other door is utility room. Photo with three doors is walkout to outside driveway. Good set-up to move 500 lb Hansen speakers downstairs.
 

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I'm looking at purchasing a house that has a very large basement (almost 3000sqft) with a 31x17x9'4" kids playroom. The flooring is carpet covered concrete. The ceiling is a drop ceiling I would have converted to a standard drywall ceiling. After conversion of the ceiling the room would be roughly 31x17x9'6". A little lower ceiling than I like but the house is in Kentucky, and in that part of the country >10ft ceilings are rare. If I didn't use the basement, the best upstairs room I would have is an office that's 17x13x10, a little on the small side.

Would that basement playroom turn out to be a good room? Certainly enough cubic volume. I ran the dimensions through a mode calculator and it didn't appear bad below 200hz but I am far from an expert. This room would be 2 channel only and have no furniture other than equipment racks and seating.

Thanks in advance.

Ian
South Florida (for now)

These seem like great dimensions to me! 31' length is great!

One sidewall is all wood framing and drywall? And the other sidewall is about half wood framing and drywall and about half big windows?
 
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Can you remove the drop ceiling then do some organizing and paint it a dark color? I've seen this in commercial spaces.
 

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I'm looking at purchasing a house that has a very large basement (almost 3000sqft) with a 31x17x9'4" kids playroom. The flooring is carpet covered concrete. The ceiling is a drop ceiling I would have converted to a standard drywall ceiling. After conversion of the ceiling the room would be roughly 31x17x9'6". A little lower ceiling than I like but the house is in Kentucky, and in that part of the country >10ft ceilings are rare. If I didn't use the basement, the best upstairs room I would have is an office that's 17x13x10, a little on the small side.

Would that basement playroom turn out to be a good room? Certainly enough cubic volume. I ran the dimensions through a mode calculator and it didn't appear bad below 200hz but I am far from an expert. This room would be 2 channel only and have no furniture other than equipment racks and seating.

Thanks in advance.

Ian
South Florida (for now)
You might want to contract Norm Varney at avroomservices he is an really good source for help on room sizes and build out
 
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Can you remove the drop ceiling then do some organizing and paint it a dark color? I've seen this in commercial spaces.
I'm planning on doing that. We're doing a Facetime tour tomorrow to see how much I can squeeze out by getting rid of the drop ceiling. I thought my agent told me we can get to 9' 6". Now he says he doesn't remember, lol.

It's crazy, the seller put big, big money into the kitchen but then just left the drop ceiling the builder originally installed. It could be nice entertaining space if they spent money on the basement. I told my wife she would be able cook my scrambled eggs and Hamburger Helper on a commercial grade Wolf Range. :) I have VERY pedestrian tastes when it comes to food.

Thanks very much for all the feedback.
 
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I'm looking at purchasing a house that has a very large basement (almost 3000sqft) with a 31x17x9'4" kids playroom. The flooring is carpet covered concrete. The ceiling is a drop ceiling I would have converted to a standard drywall ceiling. After conversion of the ceiling the room would be roughly 31x17x9'6". A little lower ceiling than I like but the house is in Kentucky, and in that part of the country >10ft ceilings are rare. If I didn't use the basement, the best upstairs room I would have is an office that's 17x13x10, a little on the small side.

Would that basement playroom turn out to be a good room? Certainly enough cubic volume. I ran the dimensions through a mode calculator and it didn't appear bad below 200hz but I am far from an expert. This room would be 2 channel only and have no furniture other than equipment racks and seating.

Thanks in advance.

Ian
South Florida (for now)
If you keep (or raise) the dropped ceiling it will allow you to easliy insert acoustic panels at the ceiling first reflection points, and put sound insulation material behind them. When I had my dedicated basement listening room built I used acoustic drywall for the walls and had the ceiling dropped so I could easily mount ceiling acoustical panels. You will still need ceiling acoustical treatments with a drywall ceiling but they will be harder to deploy. For the absolute best sonics you should replace all of the standard ceiling tile where you are not using acoustic panels with acoustical tiles (I haven't done that yet but I plan to). The typical fiberglass ceiling tiles are designed for energy efficiency (i.e., to retain warm or cool air depending on the season) and do very little to improve listening room sonics. My room in the photo is 16'd x 10'w x 8'h. Both your basement and office dimensions sound OK. IMG_0686.jpg
 
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Looks like house is a no go because of non-music room issues the seller isn't will to repair (mold in a basement room for one).

Side note, I've always thought buying a house would be fun and it always sucks. Back to square one.
 
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Sorry for your turmoil :oops:
But good that you found out about the mold before you bought the house :eek:
 
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