Preferred aes/ebu 110 ohm digital cable you have tried

Probably should stay out of this one, but since I am here...............

There is no way to predict how any digital cable will sound, in any system. Yes, they all have one very significant parameter, that should be adhered to, but there is no way to cross-correlate how it will sound.

Even if there was...............

Any system has 3 parts: transmitter (source/transport), cable, and receiver (DAC). All three must have the same impedance. Does not matter what that value is, as long as all 3 are identical. (SPDIF is 75R, AES/EBU is 110R.)

So, what sounds bright in one system can sound dull and/or bass-heavy, in the next. Who knows? No one does. Yes, dorky nerds like me can measure something, and say "It is 'x'", but that is all it is worth. Unless you are the guy who sells it, calling it "x" when it is really "q". Which they have been known to do.

Hope you found something to your liking.
Well said and right on!
 
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Hello

I'm sorry to post to old subject.
These days I compared several digital cables between my aurender n10 and mark no30.6

I audited siltech golden eagle2 aes/ebu vs transparent reference xl aes ebu vs blackcat tron bnc to rca vs shunyata anaconda bnc with telegartner bnc to rca.

Siltech was the most real.
It seems to seperate the instruments, to add power, then to mix. Those makes super real dynamics.
I could hear all of minor sounds like as small glitch of guitare and violin.
The bass was good enough, but the high is really outstanding. so I thnk bass is sacrified by high.
Many people say siltech has a special feeling at high, I could also see that clearly. It was very special, it always made me a state of positive tension, without any nervous.
But it made me analytic during the listening, I contineously try to find out the weakness. Of course I failed to find anything, but I couldn't enjoy. I didn't know why.

Transparent was the most musical.
I already use reference speaker cable, and reference xl power cables. those were natural without any coloration. But the aes/ebu cable insisted who he was.
It had super-slam bass, transparent and wide spectrum, and smooth. Those made the sound more quality than real.
When I listen the violin of anne sophy mutter, it was realy fantastic. Rockstar of Post Malone fullfilled my living room.
Even the piano looked some soft because a lot of reverbe, it was acceptable.
High was not enough but open enough.
It was really touched me, and made me surprise when I heard its price. ^^

Blackcat tron showed what the reference should be.
It had very deep bass, wide spectrum, perfect dynamics without any coloration.
If I would be a recording engineer or a musician, I must use this cable.
But I'm a just audio lover, it did not appeal to my heart.

Shunyata was at my home for a long time.
When I bought this, I compared it with kimber orchid, and wireworld's. it was the best.
Until now I didn't do any complain for this cable.
But now, unhappily, it shows the limit in front of 2~4 times price cables.


Thanks
 
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Since I am myself looking for a 110 ohms AES cable for my Denafrip TERMINATOR DAC, I was happy to see that there seems to be a consensus in favour of the transparent reference xl aes.

But since it is out of my budget, I wonder how the transparent reference (NON XL) compare to it's big brother Reference XL at 1/2 it's price.

The reference's 2000€ price is indeed the max I am ready to invest in a digital cable ! ( any alternative suggestion BTW to the transparent reference - non XL ? )
 
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Since I am myself looking for a 110 ohms AES cable for my Denafrip TERMINATOR DAC, I was happy to see that there seems to be a consensus in favour of the transparent reference xl aes.

But since it is out of my budget, I wonder how the transparent reference (NON XL) compare to it's big brother Reference XL at 1/2 it's price.

Hi,
I have the Totaldac d-12 DAC which uses two aes cables. Since the cost of two ref XL’s would have been crazy I thought that I would give the non xl a try. In my system it was a NO GO. In fact everything else I tried was better. I thought the Siltech worked best for me and haven’t really thought about looking further.

The reference's 2000€ price is indeed the max I am ready to invest in a digital cable ! ( any alternative suggestion BTW to the transparent reference - non XL ? )
Since I am myself looking for a 110 ohms AES cable for my Denafrip TERMINATOR DAC, I was happy to see that there seems to be a consensus in favour of the transparent reference xl aes.

But since it is out of my budget, I wonder how the transparent reference (NON XL) compare to it's big brother Reference XL at 1/2 it's price.

Hi,
I have the Totaldac d-12 DAC which uses two aes cables. Since the cost of two ref XL’s would have been crazy I thought that I would give the non xl a try. In my system it was a NO GO. In fact everything else I tried was better. I thought the Siltech worked best for me and haven’t really thought about looking further.[/U
 
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With AES 3id (AES/EBU) being a very robust interconnect system, it's not going to matter unless the cable is very long. But my first choice would be a Belden cable, followed by Canare and Mogami. This is a type of cable that should be manufactured by a big bulk cable company.
 

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With AES 3id (AES/EBU) being a very robust interconnect system, it's not going to matter unless the cable is very long. But my first choice would be a Belden cable, followed by Canare and Mogami. This is a type of cable that should be manufactured by a big bulk cable company.
It matters (to me) if one sounds better than the other.
 
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Has someone tested the FRENCH JCT aes/ebu One from hifi-cables.com

At 460€ ( 600 $) it seems a very good deal based on the very positive french review

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I have not but of the large number of digital cables I have used over the years, the one that is the best ever and in my system for quite a while
now is the Shunyata SIGMA line of digital cables, both AES and Clock cables (50-ohm in my case).
 
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I have not but of the large number of digital cables I have used over the years, the one that is the best ever and in my system for quite a while
now is the Shunyata SIGMA line of digital cables, both AES and Clock cables (50-ohm in my case).
Thanks for the advice. It looks like the most raved digital cables are Transparent Reference and Shunyata SIGMA ! !

I will therefore investigate those Shunyata SIGMA to use between my Aurender W20 and my Denafrips TERMINATOR R2R DAC. I just wonder what will sound Best : COAX or AES ???

PS: I am not too fan of this strange looking glass part. I hope it is really usefull and not just for marketing purposes to impress the customer !

PS2: during my initial tests, I had the impression that I could play DSD Ok with USB but not with the Coax connection !* is it normal or did I configured something wrong ?* . Will AES have the same limitation for DSD than Coax ?
 
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Thanks for the advice. It looks like the most raved digital cables are Transparent Reference and Shunyata SIGMA ! !

I will therefore investigate those Shunyata SIGMA to use between my Aurender W20 and my Denafrips TERMINATOR R2R DAC. I just wonder what will sound Best : COAX or AES ???

PS: I am not too fan of this strange looking glass part. I hope it is really usefull and not just for marketing purposes to impress the customer !
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PS2: during my initial tests, I had the impression that I could play DSD Ok with USB but not with the Coax connection !* is it normal or did I configured something wrong ?* . Will AES have the same limitation for DSD than Coax ?
I've not experienced the W20 much and the Denafrips at all so I could not comment. I can say with other equipment I've owned, I've come to appreciate and prefer 110-ohm AES over 75-ohm S/PDIF but YMMV.
 

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Best bear in mind when making comparisons or extrapolating data points that a bnc terminated spdif will comfortably outperform an rca terminated one as the latter (and equipment jacks) are seldom 75 ohm compliant.
 
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With AES 3id (AES/EBU) being a very robust interconnect system, it's not going to matter unless the cable is very long. But my first choice would be a Belden cable, followed by Canare and Mogami. This is a type of cable that should be manufactured by a big bulk cable company.
It matters with any length of cable. This goes for digital cables, analog interconnects, speaker cables and power cords. The metals, surrounding materials and winding geometry all make an audible difference. Which one is preferred is a practical and financial issue. In other words, we have to try them.
 

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