Pope to resign Feb. 28, says he's too infirm
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Tim,
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I went to Catholic school for 12 years, was an altar boy, in the church choir, etc. My mother was of Irish Catholic descent and my father was a hard core convert. When I was in elementary school I was ready to become a Maryknoll missionary priest!
I am not a practicing Catholic any longer.
Some of my family members are very serious Catholics, one brother is very active in the Knights of Columbus.
I grew up during the Vatican II reform period and those were very interesting times.
This Pope is very conservative doctrinally/theologically and he has placed only people who agree with him in the College of Cardinals. Very likely that the new Pope with be very conservative as well.
Without getting into a religious discussion per se, there have been so many serious issues within the Church over the past few years that its obvious that a complete reexamination of its structure is required. In my mind, the authority of the church to speak out on moral issues has been seriously undermined.
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Do they make an alert system for that? Help! I'm a fallen Catholic and I can't get up!
Think positive. You are not a fallen Catholic. You are a resurrected humanist.
I liked his decision, my hope is that the new Pope could be more in line with the reality we are now living, I understand that the Canadian candidate is leading the preferences so far.
Steve-I have steered clear of making any "controversial" statements on this thread. Others have veered over that line including yourself. Even though I have personally steered clear, it hasn't been easy and thus my comment. So you have personally already apologized and removed one of your posts but yet I'm one of two having a "problem?"
This time I'll agree with you Steve! I honestly don't see the difficulty in keeping religion out of this.
I think I've been pretty well behaved and tried to be respectful of religeous convictions of others on this thread. My only infraction is pointing out Mahoney's less than stellar credentials when someone felt compelled to bring up his tarnished reputation on this thread.
Regrettably that person was me.
I find the whole notion of this pope resigning a very remarkable gesture as he understands his limitations in administering his role as pope. Further the fact that this hasn't occurred in almost 600 years has raised hands in terms of protocol. I asked earlier what happens to his Ring Of The Fisherman? Is it smashed as done when a pope dies. Also what becomes of him? Does he remain a cardinal or does he return to his country to live out his years.
As a non catholic I must admit that I find this an incredible gesture by this man.
I find the whole notion of this pope resigning a very remarkable gesture as he understands his limitations in administering his role as pope. Further the fact that this hasn't occurred in almost 600 years has raised hands in terms of protocol. I asked earlier what happens to his Ring Of The Fisherman? Is it smashed as done when a pope dies. Also what becomes of him? Does he remain a cardinal or does he return to his country to live out his years.
As a non catholic I must admit that I find this an incredible gesture by this man.
I was "fallen" not too long ago. Having my own family slowly got me back up. They made me so grateful.
I understand there to be some uncertainly about the smashing of the ring. He will stay within the Vatican grounds and a house is being prepared for his retirement.
That's what I would have hoped for John. To send this man, back to Bavaria and devoid of his cardinal status made no sense
Exactly. Plus he'll have the privacy he needs to live out his years in peace and quiet.
His decision to do this has earned him a greater respect in my eyes and that of millions of others.
Having been in catholic schools from age 5 to 21, and still a practicing catholic till present, I was much in surprise and bewilderment on the news that I really failed to even see that it was an incredible and humble gesture by the pope to step down, bucking most traditions. Whatever the reasons are, catholics should feel that the act is all for the good and betterment of their flock. While there were times I do not agree with the church's strong influence and even interference in acts of government in our country, I still remain with them for my spiritual needs. The latest being our local parish priest kept making redundant attacks on the governments birth control program for many months, which was too much for me to bear, it almost led me to want to make some protestations with the priest; but my wife got the better of me, she just suggested that we move to another church nearby.
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