Ozzy Osbourne, Black Sabbath singer and godfather of heavy metal, dead at 76

[Al M.]

Okay. I was tryng to understand why you thought that and the explanation I came to was the Dave Davies guitar solo. Without that explanation I would disagree.

It's not just the solo, it's also the riff:

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https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-kinks-dave-davies-invented-heavy-metal/

 

[Ron Resnick]

"Paranoid" I think is the only heavy metal song I like. That's an oldie but goodie.

 

[andromedaaudio]

The scholars argue about this. When Deep Purple performed "Child in Time" in 1970, the audience looked at each other and said, "What kind of nut is this? Today, one of the best songs ever."

P.S
Just like Gene Simmons of Kiss claimed to have invented the symbol, but it was actually Ronnie James Dio. His grandmother used it to calm goats when they were jumping around. The truth lies somewhere in between, as always.View attachment 155118

I have already 3 or 4 tape versions of this song plus several on vinyl and CD .

Tape / tubes

CD / tubes

 

[bonzo75]

"Paranoid" I think is the only heavy metal song I like. That's an oldie but goodie.

That was done as a filler for the album, they had 2.5 mins left and were asked to put in something quickly. They had never done sub 5 mins till then.

 

[DasguteOhr]

I have already 3 or 4 tape versions of this song plus several on vinyl and CD .


Tape / tubes

I only use this lp


A short playback

 

[Elliot G.]

Alone the angus young guitar walk..phantastic looks like lot of fun

fun but Chuck Berry did it a long time before Angus

 

[fbhifi]

fun but Chuck Berry did it a long time before Angus

At least we can all agree, or maybe not, on which musician originated the Duck Walk.

 

[Elliot G.]

At least we can all agree, or maybe not, on which musician originated the Duck Walk.

I am not aware of it happening before Mr. Berry , is that what you are insinuating?

 

[fbhifi]

I am not aware of it happening before Mr. Berry , is that what you are insinuating?

Sorry, that my post was unclear. To clarify- I believe, based on my memory not an AI search, that Chuck Berry was the first Rock ‘n Roll musician to do the Duck Walk on stage.

 

[jeff1225]

What is anybody's hypothesis as to why these old geezer rockers just can't get off the stage? Phil Collins performing in a chair. Ozzy? The Rolling Stones?

Are these guys as psychologically addicted to the adoration of screaming fans today as they were physically addicted to drugs decades ago?

Why not go out at the top as a jumping rockstar maniac, instead of having your fans remembering you as an elderly and feeble octogenarian sitting in a chair?

From what I’ve read there are several factors:

-bad record deals
-multiple divorces
-streaming, where most music is consumed, pays nothing.

So it seems that live performance is the only way to actually make money in the current music market economy

 

[GeoffR]

What is anybody's hypothesis as to why these old geezer rockers just can't get off the stage? Phil Collins performing in a chair. Ozzy? The Rolling Stones?

Are these guys as psychologically addicted to the adoration of screaming fans today as they were physically addicted to drugs decades ago?

Why not go out at the top as a jumping rockstar maniac, instead of having your fans remembering you as an elderly and feeble octogenarian sitting in a chair?

And Elton John, Rod Stewart, etc... U2, Radiohead, Oasis creeping into this zone as well...

After buying a "record player", my first album purchased was Captain Fantastic (wore out the grooves on that one!) and the first album I lined up for upon it's release was Rock of the Westies. Just entering my teens, this set me on my path with Supertramp, Rod Stewart and the like holding a special place in my music memories.

I never did get into Metal, but definitely considered Black Sabbath the originals, with Zeppelin in the mix between metal and English blues based rock. FWIW and IMO, ACDC falls into the same hard rock camp as GnR, etc.

I agree as others have stated, this group of performers love to perform. They are in their element and, at this stage of their careers, absolute consummate professionals. One of my favorite live shows ever was Sting with Peter Gabriel a few years ago. They were thoroughly enjoying themselves, and 18,000 of us were totally on board for the ride. My biggest regret was missing Elton John's Farewell Yellow Brick Road tour stop. I chose, for the reasons Ron stated, not to attend. What a mistake, for me personally.

On the topic of money, probably can't be overlooked, as this level of performer/artists are essentially corporations with massive teams behind them. I'm sure some get pushed into it, but my guess, as I note above, is that the performers are there because it what they love to do, and the stage is a very energizing place for them.

RIP Ozzy. This is a great thread. Bringing up all sorts of memories!

 

[Johan K]

What is anybody's hypothesis as to why these old geezer rockers just can't get off the stage? Phil Collins performing in a chair. Ozzy? The Rolling Stones?

Are these guys as psychologically addicted to the adoration of screaming fans today as they were physically addicted to drugs decades ago?

Why not go out at the top as a jumping rockstar maniac, instead of having your fans remembering you as an elderly and feeble octogenarian sitting in a chair?

I must say you actually have a point here. Nobody wants to see Usain Bolt run 100m at 20 seconds. Everyone wants to remember his 9.58 from Berlin.. right?!

 

[DasguteOhr]

What is anybody's hypothesis as to why these old geezer rockers just can't get off the stage? Phil Collins performing in a chair. Ozzy? The Rolling Stones?

Are these guys as psychologically addicted to the adoration of screaming fans today as they were physically addicted to drugs decades ago?

Why not go out at the top as a jumping rockstar maniac, instead of having your fans remembering you as an elderly and feeble octogenarian sitting in a chair?

If you love what you do, then retirement doesn't matter. If you don't like your job, you'll look forward to retirement; it's that simple. If you don't like your job, you should look for something else. My advice If you rest, you rust - old German proverb

 

[andromedaaudio]

If you love what you do, then retirement doesn't matter. If you don't like your job, you'll look forward to retirement; it's that simple. If you don't like your job, you should look for something else. My advice If you rest, you rust - old German proverb

Exactly , retirement is boring what re you gonno do at home all day
I dont need to work no more , but i still travel a lot / fix / install machinery .

Ozzy was a lucky guy he did what he loved , and got a great * good bye " concert in Birmingham surrounded by friends

 

[DasguteOhr]

Exactly , retirement is boring what re you gonno do at home all day
I dont need to work no more , but i still travel a lot / fix / install machinery .

Ozzy was a lucky guy he did what he loved , and got a great * good bye " concert in Birmingham surrounded by friends

+1
I think Ozzy didn't miss a thing in life and lived it to the fullest. He left this earth as a happy man. What more could you want? He was a shrewd businessman, and he invested $200 million in real estate, if the press can be believed.

 

[andromedaaudio]

+1
I think Ozzy didn't miss a thing in life and lived it to the fullest. He left this earth as a happy man. What more could you want? He was a shrewd businessman, and he invested $200 million in real estate, if the press can be believed.

He did the reality show The Osbournes

$$$$$$$

 

[DasguteOhr]

He did the reality show The Osbournes

$$$$$$$

Yes,sometimes he didn't seem so clever, especially when I think about the attempt to drive a quad bike. Each person is said to have received $50,000 per episode. The series ran for three years, so it adds up.or was brilliant acting I don't know...

 

[andromedaaudio]

Yes,sometimes he didn't seem so clever, especially when I think about the attempt to drive a quad bike. Each person is said to have received $50,000 per episode. The series ran for three years, so it adds up.or was brilliant acting I don't know...

I dont know either , Im not sure ozzy was acting , but it was funny and a good commercial move

 

[Al M.]

Here's one take on the first Black Sabbath album being the first true heavy metal album:

From: Every Black Sabbath Album, Ranked https://share.google/4IEcuQcdETjAxCQ9r

Although Cream, Zep, Deep Purple, Hendrix, and others made records in the late ’60s that molded electric blues and psychedelia into something harder and louder, Black Sabbath’s debut still feels like the lightning bolt moment when heavy metal was truly born.

The dissonant tritone at the center of Iommi’s riff on “Black Sabbath” simply sounds evil, and Osbourne’s performance resembles the terrified protagonist of a horror movie more than the “Prince of Darkness” he’d eventually be known as. Butler wrote lyrics for “N.I.B.” from the perspective of Lucifer and played his bass like it’s the lead instrument on the song, which was appropriately later covered by Primus with Osbourne on vocals. Black Sabbath was bashed out in one marathon 12-hour session, and the band included a cover of the American band Crow’s hit “Evil Woman” as a blatant commercial concession, but the album’s importance can’t be overstated.

 

[Stevet]

Sorry, that my post was unclear. To clarify- I believe, based on my memory not an AI search, that Chuck Berry was the first Rock ‘n Roll musician to do the Duck Walk on stage.

T-Bone Walker did the duck walk well before Chuck Berry. I would not be surprised if there was someone even earlier.