New direct driveb Thorens TD24
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7999 € VAT included. I saw it last year at an audio show but only on static display.
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Yes, £8K excl. the SPU. £10K with SPU.
However, SP-10R is £9K without arm & plinth (inclusive 14K), so in the scheme for a DD not too bad if it sounds good!
I wonder who makes the motor?
I don't see the purpose of the restrictive format for the shape of all the pieces, if you're just going to put in a new drive system that has nothing to do with the original... I'd rather have an original or something else for my main.
might as well by one of the old DD classics
spend the rest on rebuild, plinth etc
spend the rest on rebuild, plinth etc
Very true, though when they go wrong they can be expensive, if not become expensive door stops.
Marc, what's more upsetting - that Thorens have used the TD 124 model or manufactured a DD table?
Imagine the anticipation when Yamaha announced they were making a new top of line turntable in the tradition of their famous GT-2000 . It will be called the GT-5000. It looks absolutely wonderful and the splitting image of the old GT-2000. Except for one important thing - its now a bloody belt drive and not direct drive - LOL. and the pivoted tonearm is straight with no offset?
In the 1980s Yamaha did offer the YSA-2 "upgrade " for the GT 2000.This was a straight underhung option.
Not saying it is right or wrong, just that they did do it with the classic GTs. In the October 2020 (rave) review of the GT 5000 in Hi Fi News, Paul Miller found THD to increase from 0.65% to 1.9% at the end of side. Also from the review ; Yamaha acknowledges that tracking error is 10% at the end of side but counters this by saying tracking error in a conventional 9 inch arm would be 5%. They further contend that this is less troublesome than distortion resulting from mistracking. I am not sure how an underhung arm will lead to less mistracking?
YSA-2 .Pic from HiFiDo
Agreed. I was very disappointed. I just wished they had gone the whole hog and lived up to the name.... Giant & Tremendous......
And all the accessories including the copper plater
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Very positive review by KK in HiFiNews. To quote him "If I had £8,000, this would be staying put".
too many opinions on this ...
Thorens decided to go for a Direct Drive, as more close to their classic Idler Sound than a Belt Drive...
Currently they are selling good, means the decision to go DD was not too bad
Very sweeping statement. I've yet to come across one that does, but have plans to have a Micro SX5000 clone built to compare.
Mt TD124 doesn't really match up to my DDs.
As an owner of a TD-124 Mk2, I'd love to hear the new TD-124 DD. But, this turntable has essentially a generic Taiwanese direct drive motor which mostly graces turntables costing hundreds of $, not high thousands. I'm sure that the generic DD motor has been tweaked, but look at the HiFi News test results and it does not look that good - yes, it's very quiet, but instead of having one sharp 'peak' in the speed spectrum, there are in fact two peaks. Paul Miller theorizes that this is due to 'some slight asymmetry between the phases of one or more of the 12 coils in our sample' . Such time anomalies are usually quite audible when listening to real music, so I'm surprised that Ken Kessler scored this example so highly (Sound Quality 89%). Ken may love the TD-124DD for its retro charm, but for £8k I would expect some deeper engineering quality, which even a lowly Technics SL-1200GR can beat (yes, it has a very average tonearm but its motor is astonishingly precise in terms of absolute speed).
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