Munich High-End 2018 Ron Report: NAT Magma New SE
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Haha no never mind then
What type you have, i checked. I cant remember if i heard these might be, havent been to a show in 10 years
What type you have, i checked. I cant remember if i heard these might be, havent been to a show in 10 years
Andromeda, the Zus that measured poorly were the Essence w ribbon tweeter.
They never really gelled, were Sean’s only proper failure as a spkr designer.
I have the TOTL Definitions 4 w upgraded Lundahls and Duelunds.
Happy to give my opinion on Nat and why I feel it’s a fantastic choice for lots of different reasons.
So if you wanna know, just ask this lowly but totally content Zu owner.
They never really gelled, were Sean’s only proper failure as a spkr designer.
I have the TOTL Definitions 4 w upgraded Lundahls and Duelunds.
Happy to give my opinion on Nat and why I feel it’s a fantastic choice for lots of different reasons.
So if you wanna know, just ask this lowly but totally content Zu owner.
I can’t really offer comparisons, that’s Ked’s bag.
I can just tell you what they do well.
Put it this way, I bought my cartridge which was demoed using the amps I have now.
I spent most of the demo asking the dealer how on Earth the sound I was hearing was so compelling.
For a variety of reasons I didn’t buy the amps then, chickened out and bought less remarkable alternatives, and regretted my decision for the next 2 years.
Not a day went by in that 2 years that I didn’t cast my mind back to that demo, and finally I relented and bought the NATs.
And four years into ownership I’ve not heard anything that remotely threatens that choice.
But if you want comparisons, our resident Air Miles collector can help.
I can just tell you what they do well.
Put it this way, I bought my cartridge which was demoed using the amps I have now.
I spent most of the demo asking the dealer how on Earth the sound I was hearing was so compelling.
For a variety of reasons I didn’t buy the amps then, chickened out and bought less remarkable alternatives, and regretted my decision for the next 2 years.
Not a day went by in that 2 years that I didn’t cast my mind back to that demo, and finally I relented and bought the NATs.
And four years into ownership I’ve not heard anything that remotely threatens that choice.
But if you want comparisons, our resident Air Miles collector can help.
Haha well im about to be a collector as well , im on my way to poland next week Bangladesh .
What i meant by comparisons is what did you have before , what was the journey
What i meant by comparisons is what did you have before , what was the journey
Sure A.
1997 Roksan Caspian SS integrated amp
1999 Advantage SS integrated amp
2005 Hovland amps: HP200 tube pre/Radian SS power
2012 should have been the NATs, but settled on Audion: Quattro 4-chassis true dual mono tube pre/Black Shadow 30W 845 tube power (w Elrog tubes)
2015 NAT: Utopia tube pre/SE2SE 211 tube power using 1948 GE tubes.
1997 Roksan Caspian SS integrated amp
1999 Advantage SS integrated amp
2005 Hovland amps: HP200 tube pre/Radian SS power
2012 should have been the NATs, but settled on Audion: Quattro 4-chassis true dual mono tube pre/Black Shadow 30W 845 tube power (w Elrog tubes)
2015 NAT: Utopia tube pre/SE2SE 211 tube power using 1948 GE tubes.
I ve heard 845 s quite a bit, i think 211 s only in audio Note UK.
I only had 1 set before not as power full as a 211.
May be im too deaf for a SET. Lol
I only had 1 set before not as power full as a 211.
May be im too deaf for a SET. Lol
He's not wrong the chances are they will be quite a bit better than the GEs in the NATs.
Anyway, one alternative GM 100 usage is as a lamp, as featured in the Tune Audio room. Lit as offered by Mr Tune as we chatted.
Cool. Er, no. Make that hot!
The SE2SE from Nat was voiced around the GE. I’m happy as is. But please, keep the suggestions coming. Only ones off limits are anything to do w Mooks.
By someone else's ears in a completely different system.
That sort of claim always makes me smile.
Anyway the Amperex aren't flying over to your place by magic... and your amps are a pain to bias anyway, I think you said.
So repeat after me "the GEs are the best, the GEs are the best"
Justin, from what I hear Dejan the designer is a maniac who listens to prog rock in the early hours.
If he voiced around GEs that’s good for me.
Any guy who creates an amp to sound good w Rush, Magma, Mahavishnu Orchestra, electric Miles D is top of the class.
And yes, the Nats are a bitch to bias.
So, “GEs are the best, GEs are the best” wash, rinse, dry, repeat.
If he voiced around GEs that’s good for me.
Any guy who creates an amp to sound good w Rush, Magma, Mahavishnu Orchestra, electric Miles D is top of the class.
And yes, the Nats are a bitch to bias.
So, “GEs are the best, GEs are the best” wash, rinse, dry, repeat.
Have you ever listened to these Audio Sculpture Ultima amplifiers ?I dont know, NAT is very good value for performance, I didnt feel the transmitters to be up to the level of the prestiges though if that is of any help. The prestiges were more neutral, threw a significantly larger stage, and imho had superior rendering of texture. Their predecessors, the Audio Sculpture Ultima’s ran at even higher voltages, 1.5 times the rated power output, and are tube rectified. There’s a pair up for sale but the refurbish cost will be considerable. I do have spare Sic Safco high voltage capacitors which I had to order a bunch from as they’re custom order only so I am tempted from time to time to pick these up
Can you tell a little about them, please ?
Thanks.
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