Koetsu

[RickS]

I’m loading my Black to 100 ohms going through my Parasound JC3+. Never had the urge to change that setting.

 

[dan31]

I was loading a black goldline at 1000 ohm and really liked it.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

its a good idea to experiment with loading.sometimes a different setting to the manufacturers setting can sound better.

 

[Peguinpower]

I like the ease of changing loading on my Allnic H-1202. I will switch from 30 to 70 to 116 and 280 ohms depending on the pressing. 95% off the time, Im at 70 and 116 ohms. The former is my default and the latter for pressings that need a little more sparkle on top

 

[mountainjoe]

Btw, please share your loading experiences with your Koetsus, including your favorite SUTs. From what I know, the usual recommendation is 100 ohms but on my previous phono stage, I liked the sound better with 40 ohms. My present phono stage goes down to only 100 ohms.

I like mine best at 100? and using an Ypsilon MC-16L SUT with my Blue Lace Platinum.

 

[Nemal1]

I have an urushi wajima loaded at 100 ohms into my esoteric e-02 phono stage via balanced cables

 

[peelaaa]

HI, these are pictures of my urushi tsugaru and the new sut

 

[jadis]

HI, these are pictures of my urushi tsugaru and the new sut

Beautiful!

 

[3125simon]

Here are my Urushi Vermillion and a new Coral stone diamond .... very nice and defiantly not lifeless.....

i use mine in a 12 inch Glanz with a stealth Helios phono cable (the most amazing improvement upgrade - like changing a phone stage to a much higher level).

simon

 

[Chop]

Hi Simon

Great pictures, thanks. How do you feel about the differences between your Etsuro Bordeux and your Koetsu's?
Regards
Wayne

 

[3125simon]

Re koetsu vs my Bordeaux, to be honest I have changed too many variables - different arms, and different phono cables with my new brinkmann balance.

what I can say is that the Glanz/coralstone diamond/ stealth helios is by far the best combination - by far my go to for best sound serious listening and the best sound I’ve ever had at home, no contest.

the vermillion in the same combination is not as open, nor as resolved, but has enough detail, pace, resolution and openness to be highly satisfying while a little on the warm side of neutral which I prefer and balances my tidal electronics and speakers.

the Bordeaux is on a brinkmann 12.1 arm with an ansuz c2 phono cable. This combination is no comparision to the coralstone/Glanz setup. Compared to the vermillion/glanz, I find the Bordeaux/ 12.1 to be more resolving and more neutral, while still slightly warm. The sound is slightly more open and leaner (I suppose neutral), more treble détail.

i haven’t tried the koetsu in the brinkmann arm, and I did buy the balance with two arms and the Glanz (rather than an old fr66) to endulge my liking of koetsu.

when I first changed my turntable (previously avid Acutus SP - SME v) I swapped the listening quite regularly between the Glanz/Vermillion and 12.1/Bordeaux. But since got the coral stone, and in particular, the Steath Hélios I don’t think I’ve listened to the Bordeaux at all.......

when I had the Avid and SME, I preferred the Bordeaux to the vermillion which was closed in, slow and a bit lifeless in this combination.

so impressed have I been with the Glanz that I think this would suit the Bordeaux better and I’ve been toying with swapping out the 12.1, although there is nothing at all wrong with it.

but maybe the biggest change in all this is the Stealth Helios phono cable which has made a larger improvement than changing the cartridges and arms, and I’ll try swapping this on the 12.1 before playing with a new arm....

as I don’t listen too much in the summer (even the poor UK summer we have had), I’ll experiment more in the autumn.

Simon

 

[Chop]

Thanks Simon, thats really helpful. I appreciate the arm and cartridges are totally different, but I'm getting a clear feeling from you that you feel or suspect Bordeaux > Vermillion but Coralstone Diamond > Bordeaux. Which I guess you might expect with a diamond cantilever and it being on the very well suited Glanz.

BTW I agree with you about the transformative nature of a really good arm cable. I haven't looked back since I got the LFD custom cable. It cost me more than a really goood cartridge and the effect was greater than a really good cartridge!

 

[Golum]

At my friends place Koetsu Rosewood longbody made by Mr.Sugano.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

At my friends place Koetsu Rosewood longbody made by Mr.Sugano.View attachment 81497View attachment 81498View attachment 81499View attachment 81500

a beautiful classic.I had one of these many years ago.

 

[3125simon]

Hi Wayne,
Generally, your right in your conclusion, but with the Vermillion on the Glanz/Helios I listen to this also in preference to the 12.1/Bordeaux. but this can also be lazyness on my part..

when it’s autumn, I’ll changing things over and see what I prefer.

One caviat regarding the Bordeaux is that mine is an early sample, and Im told by the Uk importer that it has been significantly improved/tuned. There are plenty of discussions re the Bordeaux on this forum.

simon

 

[hbsry2001]

When my Tiger Eye boron wears out, it will be a diamond rebuild.

Diamond cantilever is the way to go. I have a Transfiguration Proteus D and the transparency, openness and air are amazing. Hoping to acquire a Rosewood Platinum Signature before too long.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Diamond cantilever is the way to go. I have a Transfiguration Proteus D and the transparency, openness and air are amazing.

In return for the transparency and openness do you lose any naturalness or richness or believability or "musicality" compared to the boron cantilever version?

(I personally am skeptical about diamond cantilevers due to this concern.)

 

[hbsry2001]

In return for the transparency and openness do you lose any naturalness or richness or believability or "musicality" compared to the boron cantilever version?

(I personally am skeptical about diamond cantilevers due to this concern.)

I had the boron before the diamond. IMHO you lose nothing and gain a lot. .Its the most 'believable' cartridge Ive heard. Beside it everything else Ive heard seems colored and even slow.

I wish I could afford an Ortofon Anna D to compare it to. And a Koetsu Rose Platinum sig. and an Audio Technica AT 1000.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I had the boron before the diamond. IMHO you lose nothing and gain a lot. .Its the most 'believable' cartridge Ive heard. Beside it everything else Ive heard seems colored and even slow.

Thank you!

 

[3125simon]

Thank you!

Hi Ron, only topic with a diamond cantilever is that they are very fragile - one of my cats managed to knock my arm while playing - good bye cantilever, hello large bill....

on a sound front you loose nothing and gain a lot as others have commented....