Introducing Olympus & Olympus I/O - A new perspective on modern music playback

I am still abit confused about 1&2. Local storage file has to be placed in a drive in Olympus. So 1&2 is the same?

Adding a drive slightly degrades overall SQ, aka local and network playback stays on an equal level, just slightly reduced caused by adding that drive.
 
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Emile, so we can install any other windows playback software?
Foobar2000, for instance, and the SQ will be the same as with Roon?
Thank you.

We only support Roon. Any other additions need to make sense / be worthwhile.

As an example, command line playback using xdplayer.exe (the playback component of XDMS) sounds identical to Roon.
 
Olympus: playback software does not affect sound quality

That's a massive marketing aspect worth highlighting on the new website!

Roon unfortunately suffers from a bad reputation when it comes to sound quality.

This is no longer the case with the Olympus.

I have no doubt that this will attract a lot of audiophiles who appreciate Roon for its many qualities but are reluctant to use it because of the impact on sound quality.

The Olympus certainly lives up to its name.

We'll be sharing our experiences here soon :) :) :)
 
At present I have both Roon and also HQplayer on my extreme. I need the HQplayer to play DSD1024 files because Roon does not support DSD1024. Can I ask can we use HQplayer in the Olympus?
 
Emile,
Thanks for clarifying so many points on the Olympus...I recall weeks ago the possibility you'll be revisiting daiza boards with Olympus due in part to change in Olympus footers ? please clarify
 
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The Olympus has 1 single USB port. If you plug anything into this port, an USB drive, a DAC or any other USB device, XDMI sound quality will take a nosedive down to about the same level as USB. So when comparing USB to XDMI with your DAC make sure to unplug the USB cable, and even better yet also restart the Olympus to remove any lingering nasties. Aka don’t use any USB device unless absolutely necessary!

It's been a while since I've awarded the Pearl of the Day but the above quote for me is paramount

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Practical differences between the Extreme and the Olympus:

Playback software:

Extreme: playback software affects sound quality

Olympus: playback software does not affect sound quality (assuming the playback software used is bit-perfect)
This seems to be a breakthrough and paradigm shift?

Does this mean Xdms is history as far as the Olympus platform?

And does this mean that no matter what the Roon engineers do to muck up the sound quality, that Olympus performance will be unchanged?

Where does this leave future advancements in software/playback from Taiko if there’s no platform (like XDMS) to implement them?
 
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Emile,
Thanks for clarifying so many points on the Olympus...I recall weeks ago the possibility you'll be revisiting daiza boards with Olympus due in part to change in Olympus footers ? please clarify

There’s no need for the Daiza. The Olympus is much more sophisticated in terms of resonance control than anything we build before.
 
This seems to be a breakthrough and paradigm shift?

Does this mean Xdms is history as far as the Olympus platform?

And does this mean that no matter what the Roon engineers do to muck up the sound quality, that Olympus performance will be unchanged?

Where does this leave future advancements in software/playback from Taiko if there’s no platform (like XDMS) to implement them?

XDMS would need to be 100% rock solid, stable and a joy to use before we would consider offering it on the Olympus. Steps are being taken to achieve that, it’s now the main priority where before it was more an investigation into the effects of code and certain manipulations on SQ.
 
I hear what you're saying about Roon for the next 3 months or so but I have to admit that it is still XDMS that floats my boat. There is just something about it that lures me in much more than Roon. However as you say, with Olympus, Roon is a different ballgame.....I would expect no less and hopefully more once a finished XDMS reaches us
 
Practical differences between the Extreme and the Olympus:

A summary of differing features compiled into one post:

Storage:
Extreme: locally stored files sound best

Olympus: local and remote sourced files sound the same (when used with the router)

Network:
Extreme: network setup affects both local as remote file playback performance

Olympus: network setup only affects remote file playback performance

Playback software:
Extreme: playback software affects sound quality

Olympus: playback software does not affect sound quality (assuming the playback software used is bit-perfect)

USB:
Extreme: allows finetuning towards a DAC by means of selectable USB profiles

Olympus: no effect of USB profiles, hence eliminated

Remote Desktop access:
Extreme: customer may need to access the desktop to perform various tasks

Olympus: customer does not need desktop access

General remark:

The Olympus has 1 single USB port. If you plug anything into this port, an USB drive, a DAC or any other USB device, XDMI sound quality will take a nosedive down to about the same level as USB. So when comparing USB to XDMI with your DAC make sure to unplug the USB cable, and even better yet also restart the Olympus to remove any lingering nasties. Aka don’t use any USB device unless absolutely necessary!

@Emile

could you please address each of these specific points for the combination of Extreme + IO XDMI (i.e. not Olympus)?

i have to view the Olympus as 'unobtanium' here, but if the Extreme + IO + XDMI + TotalDAC is truly a major step up, i may have to consider the IO XDMI in next year's audio budget.

to once again quote warren zevon, "i appreciate the best, but i'm settling for less, and i'm looking for the next best thing" (a great song, by the way)
 
@Emile

could you please address each of these specific points for the combination of Extreme + IO XDMI (i.e. not Olympus)?

i have to view the Olympus as 'unobtanium' here, but if the Extreme + IO + XDMI + TotalDAC is truly a major step up, i may have to consider the IO XDMI in next year's audio budget.

to once again quote warren zevon, "i appreciate the best, but i'm settling for less, and i'm looking for the next best thing" (a great song, by the way)

None of it applies to that, it’s still the Extreme, but it is a significant upgrade otherwise.
 
i have to view the Olympus as 'unobtanium' here, but if the Extreme + IO + XDMI + TotalDAC is truly a major step up, i may have to consider the IO XDMI in next year's audio budget.

Another option to consider trying is "Extreme + Olympus I/O XDMI analog". If that sounds significantly better than what you have today, selling the TotalDAC will offset some of your cost.

Being able to sell our DACs if the Olympus I/O with XDMI analog output sounds better is a pretty good incentive. Whether it sounds better or not is yet to be seen / heard, but if I was a betting man, I would not underestimate XDMI analog.
 
At present I have both Roon and also HQplayer on my extreme. I need the HQplayer to play DSD1024 files because Roon does not support DSD1024. Can I ask can we use HQplayer in the Olympus?

FYI - someone else also tried it out not too long ago

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...ew-of-math-and-magic/page/90/#comment-1279719

It's reported by an owner of Holo Cyan 2 and obviously that's sharing the same ASIO driver with your Holo May

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...ew-of-math-and-magic/page/90/#comment-1279798
EDIT: TuneBrowser is working like a dream! No issues at all so far.

Other than that, it's just a matter of whether Olympus I/O XDMI output could be selected within TuneBrowser or otherwise.

The lack of mobile apps as a remote control could be somewhat inconvenient, though.

OTOH, I could help you to sort things out with DLNA / UPnP later whenever we get a chance.
 
There’s no need for the Daiza. The Olympus is much more sophisticated in terms of resonance control than anything we build before.
Relocate Daiza under extreme and place Olympus directly on large krion platform - check
Taiko = communication and information
 

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