Honoring the past and remembering where I came from and how much I have learned

I realize I am old and that the picture on the back of that issue #20 was from 1980. I was around from the beginning of the magazine and before back to Stereo Review and High Fidelity . I think that today many don't have a historical perspective from which sites like this sprung. The Absolute Sound , Harry Pearson, Stereophile, J. Gordon Holt were started to counteract the press at the time that only wanted to promote and discuss audio from measurements. These measurements were the basis of the "reviews" and these magazines were merely advertising vehicles for the purpose of making money. This in itself is not offensive but too say that there were no audible differences ,which was the theme at the time or one could not hear these differences IMO was.
Mr. Pearson and Mr. Holt took a very different route and started the discussions about what the gear did and how it sounded. Harry always spoke highly about Mr. Holt. I can't speak about the Holt era but I was present and active through the early times of the Absolute Sound as this was also the time I got seriously into the Audio Industry. Harry's magazines were highly anticipated and devoured by the readers. His thoughts and comments by him and his writers were repeated and discussed throughout the Industry. Harry started a journey and took his readers along with him. It was winding and got sidetracked and many times never really reached a conclusion however he was learning and discovering as he went along. The High End Industry was blossoming and in the early days there were truly only a handful of products from a relatively small group of manufacturers. Like the E.F. Hutton commercials( only the old guys will know this reference) when HP spoke people listened. There were a small group of High End dealers around the country that catered to this growing market and I was fortunate enough to grow up in the NYC area where a significant part of the action occurred.
Harry gave us the language by which we describe products today. No one was perfect and no one ever accused HP of being that either, For those without the history I would highly recommend going back and reading those first 30-50 issues of the magazines and see where this all grew out of. We are living in a wonderful time for great sounding systems but to understand how that happened one would be greatly served by knowing the past and the path.
The products extolled today stand on the backs of those who came before. You might be surprised at where companies like Wilson came from and how they began.
Companies like ARC, Dahlquist, Quad, Magnepan, Linn Sondek, Fulton, Mark Levinson along with HP stated something we all enjoy today.
My purpose for starting this thread was just nostalgia after finding my old TAS collection however I think now that it is more important than I realized.
The internet has birthed generations of anonymous "experts", "critics" and "know it alls" in every field where facts are never considered and history is something never learned.
I for one miss the days of respect and the healthy interchange of ideas based on experience and learning.
Great post, Elliot. I am and was a very long time fan of HP’s. IMHO, he was the best audio writer in the world, simply because he could elucidate what he was hearing and describe the event better than anyone else. To that, he would tell it like it was, and I found that his remarks and results closely rivaled what I discovered to be the same. Unlike other reviewers at the time, I think he wasn’t so much into hyperbole, unless something really floated his boat...and then the dam could break. It is very unfortunate that he had such a poor and apparently well deserved reputation for being less than reputable when it came to gear and the manufacturer loaning process. This would certainly appear to have made him justified nay sayers. Too bad, as he was smart enough, imo, not to have to behaved in that manner.
Certainly the hobby has changed in the last twenty years, and perhaps in many ways, not for the better.
OTOH, there are still a few good folks involved, one of who’s cable I am currently listening to...and enjoying greatly. This fellow is trying to produce artisan cables at pricing that even the poorest a’phile can afford, and yet have the cable compete with multi thousand $$ competitors. Funny thing is, that he knows full well that the well heeled a’phile will dismiss his cable in no time, simply due to the price point, lol.
 
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Certainly the hobby has changed in the last twenty years, and perhaps in many ways, not for the better.
OTOH, there are still a few good folks involved, one of who’s cable I am currently listening to...and enjoying greatly. This fellow is trying to produce artisan cables at pricing that even the poorest a’phile can afford, and yet have the cable compete with multi thousand $$ competitors. Funny thing is, that he knows full well that the well heeled a’phile will dismiss his cable in no time, simply due to the price point, lol.

I know which cables you are talking about ;)

Yes, there is lots of snobbery involved in our hobby. Their loss if they want to pay too much.
 
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No Elliot; your thread inspired me to search for the first issues of The Abso!ute Sound because I too was a subscriber for several years, but not from that early. In the mid seventies I was perusing several other audio mags, including some from Canada.

I looked @ eBay first, and those first four I didn't see them there.
There are others from the seventies and the rarest sell for roughly between $40 and $50 each, Canadian dollars (about $30 US).
Number 4 is there though but you've already got it:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/the-absolut...3b2511cde0:g:kFQAAOSw8hdcEs88&redirect=mobile
And Number 6:
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/the-abs...658943?hash=item3d5695bd3f:g:rSsAAOSw-RFaYQ6w

The back cover of Number 6:
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Your thread is excellent to plunge back in the hobby we evolve with during our audiophile/musical journey, poor or/and rich.

* Put an add @ Audiogon for your search. Meanwhile if I see something I'll let you know, #1, 2 & 5.

Cheers,

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No Elliot; your thread inspired me to search for the first issues of The Abso!ute Sound because I too was a subscriber for several years, but not from that early. In the mid seventies I was perusing several other audio mags, including some from Canada.

I looked @ eBay first, and those first four I didn't see them there.
There are others from the seventies and the rarest sell for roughly between $40 and $50 each, Canadian dollars (about $30 US).
Number 4 is there though but you've already got it:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/the-absolut...3b2511cde0:g:kFQAAOSw8hdcEs88&redirect=mobile
And Number 6:
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/the-abs...658943?hash=item3d5695bd3f:g:rSsAAOSw-RFaYQ6w

The back cover of Number 6:
s-l1600.jpg


Your thread is excellent to plunge back in the hobby we evolve with during our audiophile/musical journey, poor or/and rich.

* Put an add @ Audiogon for your search. Meanwhile if I see something I'll let you know, #1, 2 & 5.

Cheers,

audiophileusa.jpg
thanks I just thought you might have them I have all the rest and I need those but they are not easy to find
 
in many subjects, not only audio , knowing the history is a useful tool in understanding how we got to the place we are at. It seems to me that there is a lot of hostility on audio sites because many think the audio world began with these websites and blogs. The internet can be a very useful place but it is also a place where everyone can be an "expert" and because they are mostly anonymous there is no recourse. I was lucky to grow up in the place I did and be influenced by the people I came across particularly in audio and NYC. I saw this Industry from its beginnings to now. Harry was a lot of things but he was one of the most influential people ( IMHO an understatement) who shaped the course of audio history. All the designers, distributors and retailers of the day were significantly impacted by HP and TAS.
Ask them, do your homework, read the history, learn and enjoy, understand how we got to this place. Many of them are still with us.
All this did not come from a void. All technology builds on those that came before them. Harry's magazine wasn't about the money and maybe if it had been he wouldn't have lost control of it. I was there I know the facts and the back stories. Making your own choices and having your own opinions is great but assuming you know everything isn't. I find that there seems to be lot's of negative comments made in many threads that have nothing to do with the thread itself , not sure why this is acceptable but it is totally there.
Those who think that judgement based on the audio version of a high speed drive by and the self proclaiming of their self importance is really boring and to me unacceptable but what do I know I am just a n old man.
 
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thanks that is a very kind offer and I am willing to buy them. I appreciate your offer Bob!
 
Francisco (microstrip) has them all up to issue #160, the lucky sunnabaggun, including this rare one:
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Yes, Bob, it is there. I also have owned some of the items that were reviewed in this issue:
the Tympani IV, the Syrinx PU-3, the Kiseki Purple Heart, the SOTA table, the Linn Valhalla., the Sowther and the The Arm (MDC-800). Some of these items are still with my friends who cherish them ...

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Elliot G. I don't see your name listed in the Cast of Characters above

What did u do at TAS?
 
I did not work for TAS I was on HP's listening panel. I was a friend and had no interest in working for him. I had no interest in writing or doing reviews.
 
Yes, Bob, it is there. I also have owned some of the items that were reviewed in this issue:
the Tympani IV, the Syrinx PU-3, the Kiseki Purple Heart, the SOTA table, the Linn Valhalla., the Sowther and the The Arm (MDC-800). Some of these items are still with my friends who cherish them ...

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I've read it @ audionirvana.org ... your audio mags from The Abso!ute Sound.
Francisco you seem like an audiophile who have learned a lot from reading and from experimenting with many audio products. Not only "seem" but you are. ...And with a very solid head on his shoulders.
 
I just read an article written by Andrew Quit where he had a fantasy visit to a weird audiophile home. I did not find the article particularly interesting but I did find Brent Butterworth's comments repugnant and disrespectful. I guess its now open season on a dead Harry Pearson which is truly a low blow and IMHO disgusting. I find comments coming from a high end nobody with a platform to be in really bad taste. I love how guys who can't tell the difference in anything always trying to tell everyone how to listen and why they are correct and we are all assholes!
https://audiophilereview.com/audiophile-news/the-best-system-i-never-heard.html
 
One of my pet peeves today is how many of the younger generation thinks the world began with the internet and the cell phone, Nothing ever happened in any subject before that and that "their opinion" is the only one that counts, everyone else is wrong, there are no facts o r proof required, they can be totally autonomous with their absurdity and if all else fails they can just make shit up.
 
One of my pet peeves today is how many of the younger generation thinks the world began with the internet and the cell phone, Nothing ever happened in any subject before that and that "their opinion" is the only one that counts, everyone else is wrong, there are no facts o r proof required, they can be totally autonomous with their absurdity and if all else fails they can just make shit up.

Duly noted, but this is not unique to the younger generation.
 

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