- Oct 24, 2018
Right now stacking isn't an issue for me with stock .6m cords. 3 shelfs, one for dac and one for each power base.Personally, I’d prefer the 1.2M, as you get to place the power supply/supplies and the DAC on different levels of the rack rather than stacking them.
Hi AngusPersonally, I’d prefer the 1.2M, as you get to place the power supply/supplies and the DAC on different levels of the rack rather than stacking them.
It's been a busy few days at the Westminster shop. Angus and found time to dig into this question late last night. Here's a brief synopsis of our call.Shouldn't be.
The MSB Hybrid power cable and also the LUMIN DC cable that we made uses the same alloy as the rest of our cable line. We have optimised the gauge of the conductor, the materials of the dielectric and also the geometry of the proprietary "variable-twist" and the overall structure of the cable for "DC" application. And of course every single one of them is hand-made, as in the process of polish, applying coating, tubing etc.Hi Angus
this cable fascinates me and with Russ being one of my closest friends who I feel is a great listener and articulates very well as to what he hears I have to congratulate you on such an innovative product. I’m interested in knowing more. So without giving away anything proprietary is there anything about this cable and it’s design that you can share with me and other interested readers
So far the formular that we are using is optimised for low voltage and small current. For other application with higher current or voltage, a different strategy may have to be used.I guess the next obvious question is “ are they optimized for only MSB or can they be used for other manufacturers “
I feel like a broken record-the sound keeps improving becoming more 3-D and the bass is moving into totally amazing territory with regard to depth and detail. Truly amazing!
It sounds like we have had essentially the same experience with regards to the impact. Thanks for the specifics about the cables. Are we talking about the same cable that I thought was designed and made by Westminster Labs?Hi Russ,
Firstly let me wish you well with your recovery…..sounds like you've been through a really rough patch lately.
I was fascinated to read about your experience with the Westminster DC cable, as your descriptions very much parallel my own experience.…..that is, being absolutely knocked out by the profound improvement a DC cable outside of the signal path made to my own system.
Let me first describe the improvements: The sound took on a purity I had never heard before in recorded music, it felt like I could hear every minute detail of the fabric and texture of the music. Then there was the holographic nature of the instruments playing the music. Immersing the listener with spatial detail and a sense of realism giving the music a sense of being palpably present in the performance venue or engineered acoustic. There was a sense of physicality about the music….like you feel as much as hear the music. Especially true of bass notes, but no less dramatic with acoustic elements that seemed to literally possess and change the air in the performance environment. Finally there was the sound’s ability to immediately grab my attention and not let go, while generating intense feelings and emotions.
The cable itself was made by Nenon, a regular contributor to the Acoustic Style forums and a vastly experienced audiophile with decades of experience in DIY hi-fi, who is an inveterate experimenter. The cable is hand built using cores of Mundorf Silver/Gold cable, wrapped in natural fibre sleeve then double shielded using the JSSG360 (John Swenson) developed recipe, terminated using silver solder to low impedance connectors.
The initial 2 cables were used between 2 Sean Jacobs DC3 power supplies, an AQVox SE switch and a modified TPLink RE650 Bridge. I was already using very good Neotech cables built by Ghent, so I was not expecting major changes, especially since these cables were used to power network components and were well outside of the signal path.
Given that my first experience was so delightfully surprising I asked Nenon to build 2 more to which he kindly agreed. My network, including all its power supplies are now wired exclusively with Mundorf Ag/Au cable. Each addition brought increased goodness, with no hint of any negative downsides as the quantity and prevalence of the cable increased. The one downside is that these cables do take a long time to reach the pinnacle of their performance.…months rather than weeks.
For anyone interested, Nenon published a DIY guide on how to construct his DC cables
Building a DIY Music Server
So Russ, wishing you many more happy years listening to music.
Mobiusman, the Westminster MSB is a totally different design from materials to engineering. That said, there is more than one way to "skin a cat" in the pursuit of achieving better sound. Most of all, it's wonderful to see another validation by Blackmorec concerning the importance and impact a well-designed DC cable can have!It sounds like we have had essentially the same experience with regards to the impact. Thanks for the specifics about the cables. Are we talking about the same cable that I thought was designed and made by Westminster Labs?
Hey Mobius,My final conclusion, at least thus far-----
You all know that I love the soundstage and imaging improvements that have come with the Westminster Labs DC cables. I am trying to get my mind around what the system's sonic presentation is doing to me, because it is totally unique, for me and the perfect way to get out of my head as I try to /sort things out for the balance of my life. The emotional impact is probably largely because of its ability to instantly get me out of my head, better than anything else I have encountered. It is like a life panacea!
But I think the core benefit is that there is so much newly available data from it's hiding place in the noise floor. The new data fits in and massively supplements and enhances what I already had. It is all arranged perfectly, making my brain react as if it is live. This realness has such a profound impact on me that it instantly shifts my total being!
What is truly amazing, and I know I am repeating myself, is the sonic presentation is so data rich and massively and perfectly integrated into the rest of my system. Literally, immediately upon first listening I am instantly back in the great listening space I now always associate with my system, and love.
Said another way, inserting thiese cables transformed my system into the perfect life tool I needed to help me sort out and manage my totally new life.
This is no small feat, especially considering how lost I was when I first inserted one of the two cables into my system, and how much better it became when I inserted the second umbilical into the entire situation. The net result is that I am able to prosper from the most difficult time of my life. It is a true bonus that I am also listening to a ton of music!!
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