Has anyone heard the Devialet D-Premier Integrated Amp/DAC

[Jupiter]

I give it up ! After having new problems with 6.09/2.1 I go back to 5.7/1.5 who work as perfect as WIFI is able to work. I´m convinced that 6.xxx/2.1 destabilize something in my W 7 - computer.
:-(

 

[cat3600]

I give it up ! After having new problems with 6.09/2.1 I go back to 5.7/1.5 who work as perfect as WIFI is able to work. I´m convinced that 6.xxx/2.1 destabilize something in my W 7 - computer.
:-(

Why that? The absolutely bottleneck is the WiFi. Should not be important, whether the NAS is connected by gigabit or not?! I really wonder about the bad functionality using WiFi at all. Seems to me, that Devialet has not made its homework yet. WiFi source right to the devialet, no other data through the WiFi, problems with different routers, in the end a WiFi optimized room or even house?! One should perhaps try to move in the countryside to avoid interferences from outside also. Sorry, we are talking about music and not even high resolution 4K 3D material with more than one stream simultaneously. The problem should not asked to be solved by every user on his own experiencing at home, but has to be solved by Devialet. They are out now for years. Should have been solved for a long time anyhow.

I am still having problems after repositioning the router, so there is definitely a problem, also I stream 1080p wirelessly and no problem, don't have 4k so don't know if it would be possible. A powerline or other type of extender is a very good idea, I do have an extender, its connected to the main router wirelessly, but then one has to connect at the other side via Ethernet, which option is not on the D-Premier for now. I was on the PS Audio website discussing this issue and one person has assigned a static IP to the Devialet and it has worked, trying to find out how he did it, as that will be a much secure connection IMO.

 

[bryanycwong]

My router is Ethernet connection to pc and placed about 1meter away from devialet. After upgrade to fw6.09 and AIR2.1 is working perfectly good. Been working for 2days No wifi drop out issue so far.

 

[Nightmare]

I was on the PS Audio website discussing this issue and one person has assigned a static IP to the Devialet and it has worked, trying to find out how he did it, as that will be a much secure connection IMO.

Would be nice to read, how he made it especially as I thought I have heard somewhere that it is not possible to give the Devialet a static IP. I am working with static IPs only.

 

[Petter]

Hmm suddenly it stops playing via optical ? orange sign ? reconfig dont help ?

Only working via air ,only me ?

 

[marcor]

Would be nice to read, how he made it especially as I thought I have heard somewhere that it is not possible to give the Devialet a static IP. I am working with static IPs only.

I am using a static IP for the D-Premier. You just need to the configurator, select the air options (the down arrow under the AIR), set your wi-fi as usual then open the Advance settings, tick DHCP OFF and write your fixed IP. Network mask can stay the same. (255.255.255.0)
You need to check your router which range of IP is using to make sure your fixed IP is in that range. Also you need to tell the router to reserve the IP assigned to Devialet to avoid conflict. You need to refer to your router manula to do so.

hope it helps

 

[cat3600]

Would be nice to read, how he made it especially as I thought I have heard somewhere that it is not possible to give the Devialet a static IP. I am working with static IPs only.

He hasn't replied but this is what I did, I went to the My Maison, went into AIR and instead of DHCP choose static, also went to my router settings and assigned the same IP, Network Mask etc. settings as the online Maison configuration particularly only for the Devialet to set it as static. Every router should be able to assign a static IP to any of the devices running through the router. When I booted with the new config on the SD card and went into the Devialet menu via the remote, under network it is showing Static IP instead of DHCP.

I am not sure if If this is the right method to do it, as I am not a network expert. It has dropped connection after that still.....

There is also a very strange thing which will happen once in a while, AIR will stop playing and there is (sssshhhh) noise coming out of the speakers, this noise is similar to pink noise or whatever one uses to set up the speaker levels in a AV receiver. The db sign goes into overload (red) no matter what the volume level is and sometimes I have had to rush to the unit to turn off, as I fear my tweeters will blow. I think there is a protection mode also built into the Devialet as if I let the unit carry on outputting the hissing noise, it shuts itself off on its own after a while. Not sure why the db sign shows as overload (meaning red), is it really going into overload??

My connection is Ethernet to main PC. Plus the main PC is also wirelessly connected to the same Wi-Fi network as the Devialet, this I believe is the right way to do it.

 

[cat3600]

What is the general setting people are using in the AIR 2.1 running on ones PC for (Target Device Buffer) I have it set at now 500 ms for now!

 

[Nightmare]

Thanks.

I had this very loud sssshhhh two times when I listened to the D-Premier with the latest Software last Friday. It was with iTunes on a Windows PC using Air. It was only when startet a new title. Changed the track 2 or 3 times and it was gone after that. Was kind of strange.

 

[andrewd]

My router is Ethernet connection to pc and placed about 1meter away from devialet. After upgrade to fw6.09 and AIR2.1 is working perfectly good. Been working for 2days No wifi drop out issue so far.

Are you using one of the new models or the D-prem? If the former you might as well run the ethernet cable the extra one meter to the devialet and bypass the router?

 

[bryanycwong]

I am using d premier. No USB and Ethernet port

 

[cat3600]

I give it up ! After having new problems with 6.09/2.1 I go back to 5.7/1.5 who work as perfect as WIFI is able to work. I´m convinced that 6.xxx/2.1 destabilize something in my W 7 - computer.
:-(

I just cannot deal with all the problems I am having with 5.9 as it hardly plays, I am back now to 5.8, so far its more stable. What a nice piece of gear really marred with crappy software. People who are used to having conversations with the Devialet team, should let them know that there are glitches in the 5.9. Monday I had played the longest ever 6 to 7 hours quite stable on 5.8

 

[Clugar]

Solutions to AIR problems defeat its purpose?

My router is Ethernet connection to pc and placed about 1meter away from devialet. After upgrade to fw6.09 and AIR2.1 is working perfectly good. Been working for 2days No wifi drop out issue so far.

I am really wondering what sense it makes to use wireless AIR connection if you have to place your router side-by-side or 1 or 2 meters from the Devialet or having to put a repeater close to the machine to make it work. Wireless 802.11 g/n norms are so prone to interference in crowded environments that you can never expect stable throughput of hirez material. Maybe the new 802.11 ac implementation will bring a workable solution, but before that I'd never try to listen to anything beyond 16/44.1. Devialet's wireless announcements were just a bit overblown and unrealistic imo.

I am also not convinced of the newly available USB option as long as there is the excellent balanced AES/EBU input, which I am using as the default (via Firewire/AES converter): No drop outs, no reduced quality, just pure musical pleasure...

 

[Togil]

I totally agree, it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest you should go by cable to an Airport which then has to be close to the amp. In that case there is no point in Wifi any more with the new uniits which have an Ethernet port. Devialet might as well forget about wifi completely from now on.

 

[Nightmare]

Devialet might as well forget about wifi completely from now on.

´Might´, but they don´t so far. They are still publicizing "the best cable is no cable".
As every cable may make interferences that could influence the sound quality.
Wondering, why they do not discuss this on their website with clear recommondation.

Anybody consulted Devialet to this question the last weeks?!

 

[Clugar]

´Might´, but they don´t so far. They are still publicizing "the best cable is no cable".
As every cable may make interferences that could influence the sound quality.
Wondering, why they do not discuss this on their website with clear recommondation.

You should not forget that "no cable" is not "just air" beween sender and receiver. Wireless streaming is much more complex and involves many more parts that can fail (and degrade the signal) than cable based options.

 

[Nightmare]

It is not my slogan but Devialet's ;-)

Of course I would prefer ethernet also when sound quality does not suffer. But Devialet always postulated WiFi and still does. And as I mentioned: Clear recommondations are missing. Information about influence on sound quality also.

I sent a mail to Devialet this morning.

 

[cat3600]

You should not forget that "no cable" is not "just air" beween sender and receiver. Wireless streaming is much more complex and involves many more parts that can fail (and degrade the signal) than cable based options.

This is very interesting as I was on the PS Audio website and Paul (owner of PS Audio) commented too about this statement "no cable is best cable" he said its not true as its just not a physical connection but a lot of stuff can degrade the sound, its basically analog without the wires, or something like that!!

Last night I went back to 5.8 and thought it was stable, it barely played 10 mins or even less and then it started making this (sssssshhhhhhhh) noise again with the db flashing red. My wireless signals are much better now, I have a AC router and other units never gave this much of a problem, my signal are between -55 to -61 on the AIR software.

So basically I have hardly listened to the D-Premier this whole week trying to get it going, now don't know how to solve this noise when it suddenly cuts of the music. I can understand the dropouts and disconnecting but when the speakers start hissing its scary, really lost now!

 

[Antoine]

-55 to -61dBm is not very good, the closer to zero the better. It's -20dBm on my Devialet and I no longer have issues since 6.0.7 except for the sudden WiFi drop off problem discussed earlier. I've reported this to Devialet and they have acknowlegded this issue and are now working with the manufacturer of the WiFi modules to get this resolved.

edit: with the current version of AIR it is much more important to have a good WiFi network. This is simply a fact, of course we can complain about it but if no one let's Devialet know they won't do anything. So please let them know. For now all else we can do is optimize both the WiFi network and our playback machines. Besides noting the WiFi strength one should also use the WiFi channel with the least active or better the weakest other accesspoints. Also configure your router to use N-only if possible and a channel width of 20Mhz (not 40) as this is more stable.

edit2: also note that with dBm the scale is logaritmic. A difference of 10dB equals to a factor of 10, 20dB a factor 100 and 40dB 10,000!! So the signal that arrives at my Devialet is around 10,000 times as strong as yours...

 

[cat3600]

-55 to -61dBm is not very good, the closer to zero the better. It's -20dBm on my Devialet and I no longer have issues since 6.0.7 except for the sudden WiFi drop off problem discussed earlier. I've reported this to Devialet and they have acknowlegded this issue and are now working with the manufacturer of the WiFi modules to get this resolved.

edit: with the current version of AIR it is much more important to have a good WiFi network. This is simply a fact, of course we can complain about it but if no one let's Devialet know they won't do anything. So please let them know. For now all else we can do is optimize both the WiFi network and our playback machines. Besides noting the WiFi strength one should also use the WiFi channel with the least active or better the weakest other accesspoints. Also configure your router to use N-only if possible and a channel width of 20Mhz (not 40) as this is more stable.

Yes its true that the signal could be better but I have streamed always on my TV, my AV receiver and my PS Audio PWD, though now I have everything connected with a AC bridge downstairs, so technically from upstairs to downstairs its still wireless, only wired from the bridge to the other equipment. I have streamed 1080P videos wireless on my samsung TV and Apple TV even without the bridge with no problem, and 1080P is much more demanding than music, I have had no issues. So I really think the wi-fi module or something needs to be addressed by Devialet.