Has anyone heard the Devialet D-Premier Integrated Amp/DAC

[Nightmare]

@nashi
I absolutely agree and I am a little bit disapointed of what is going on here since I took a view days off. Independently one big thread for all themes is often a mess. As you can see here with more than 100 pages dealing with different themes day in and day out. One more reason for a special forum or at least different threads with outlined themes or questions. Better for an overview later on also. So I would suggest new threads for new themes. Maybe linked here to find them. Would be nice, if a mod could relocate the fuse discussion to another (own) thread as well.

 

[marting]

+1

 

[Jupiter]

@nashi
I absolutely agree and I am a little bit disapointed of what is going on here since I took a view days off. Independently one big thread for all themes is often a mess. As you can see here with more than 100 pages dealing with different themes day in and day out. One more reason for a special forum or at least different threads with outlined themes or questions. Better for an overview later on also. So I would suggest new threads for new themes. Maybe linked here to find them. Would be nice, if a mod could relocate the fuse discussion to another (own) thread as well.

One could read a lot of discussions about Devialets SPU, Powerboard and other inner parts. These parts are not be changeable. The fuses are one of these parts too. Please explain why discussions about Devialets SPU etc. are ok and a discussion about Devialets fuses need an extra thread. I am curious about your explanation.

 

[Nightmare]

I don't have to explain anything at all. And it is not about the fuses in special. It is the last topic and it would be easy to replace for the first single theme. I guess no one want's to clean this whole thread of the last months by splitting it. But a thread with more than a hundred pages and more than a thousend postings becomes somewhat confusing and unclear. No one will find anything he is locking for later on. What is the problem with opening a new thread when having a special question? Threads with thousends of postings are nonsens. It has nothing to do with the discussion of the fuses or other themes at all. A clear structure is always helpfull.

 

[Fischerp]

Anyone still experiencing sudden drop offs of the network? 3 times just this morning! I thought we were past all this.

 

[bryanycwong]

I am still having this wifi sudden drop problem. After upgrade to fw6.08 and AIR 2.1. I am just wonder why the problem still there.

 

[Bernie]

I also had the sudden drop off 3 or 4 times in the past 2 weeks. It seems to be related to the switch on procedure. It seems not to happen if I first switch on the Devialet and then the PC with jRiver and the WLAN and at last the driver. It is not really a big issue as it happens very seldomly, but Devialet should try to fix this.
Another question: is there someone else using the new v6 configurator and using the high pass filter for the main LS ? This is not working anymore for me. I have switched back to the old 5.7 configurator as this is essential in my setup. I have already posted this to the support.

 

[Antoine]

@Bernie, thank you very much!! Without knowing the exact problem yet (or even that there was a problem!) I thought my music sounded different, bad actually. I blamed it on the current summer heat and/or my ears but after reading your question about the 6.x Configurator and the high pass filter I checked and I too suffer from this issue.

I have configured my D-Premier with a 2nd order high pass filter @80Hz and a full range sub out signal to a Anti-Mode 2.0 Dual Core which in turn applies a 4th order low pass filter @80Hz to my active subwoofer. I just tested for this issue by playing a 20Hz test tone and with the v6 Configurator config my mains were outputting the 20Hz too as well as my sub regardless of the 2.0 or 2.1 setting. So my conclusion too is that the high pass filter is no longer working. After reverting back to my old 5.7 config it worked again.

Tomorrow I too will report it to Devialet as well as the sudden WiFi drop off issue I also experience sometimes (yesterday twice, today once). I already did report it after testing the release candidate beta software but this clearly has not been fixed yet and wasn't present in earlier beta's.

I also hear small and soft glitches/ticks now and then using AIR, but I'm not sure yet if my PC/network is to blame but I hear this using both Foobar and JRiver MC 18 so I will report this too as I've read others experience this as well.

 

[gorkitek]

I think this will be my last post on this thread as I find it is now plagued by unsubstantiated statements and daft ideas. On your own points:

1. Miller did not attempt to quantify the degree of difference between the 170 and the D-Premier. By the way, if you claim my analogy is flawed, how can you then immediately come up with the idea that "since Devialet themselves have said that there is not much of a sound difference, it would be detrimental not positive for the reviewer to state the opposite, if one had to go by your logic above!" Is "the opposite" there is no difference, or there is a lot of a difference? By the way, Miller has not done "double blind" to validate this "opposite" (whatever that is) and I doubt he ever will.

2. I didn't say fuses don't make any difference, I simply disagreed with your view that fuses make a huge difference. If they did, then those who bought the original PS Audio PWD, produced by a highly competent audio company, were unknowingly buying a product which was hugely sonically inferior to that which could be achieved by a simple change of 1" of wire - despite years of development work from PS Audio. And if you think most people think fuses make a difference, where is the evidence?

3. I said nothing about power conditioners, ... , isolation tables. In fact I use a PS Audio conditioner myself. I know Paul McGowan at PS and agree he is an extremely honest and direct person but with an obligation to run a commercially viable operation. If I owned a PPP, would I automatically move to a P5 and then to a P5 with nice expensive fuses. Of course not.

We have differing opinions, I respect that we can have differing views. Enjoy your music!

I completely agree Ian - I have already stopped posting for similar reasons to yours. G

 

[marting]

Again:
+1

But actually I am also able to write a little more.
... with the next post.

 

[marting]

I am still having this wifi sudden drop problem. After upgrade to fw6.08 and AIR 2.1. I am just wonder why the problem still there.

same with me. Even though the problem defenitely occurs rarely compared to the early 6.x firmware versions with AIR 2.0.
That means, it works for me.
... more or less.

 

[Jupiter]

6.09 is available

 

[dans6959]

6.09 is available

Do they post release notes regarding what changes/improvements have been made? I poked around on the website but couldn't find anything.

 

[Jupiter]

6.09 is available

Wow ! What an easy sound, the strange particles in 6.08th music are away. Congratulation Devialet support stuff !

 

[Jupiter]

Do they post release notes regarding what changes/improvements have been made? I poked around on the website but couldn't find anything.

I don´t know. My music sounds today with 6.08 so bad, that i decided to go back to 5.7. Willing to do that until the next hopeful better sounding update, I discovered 6.09.
Go to their wesite, try to download 6.... and you´ll see the 6.09

 

[Ekmanc]

For those of you who use jRiver, which volume option do you use???? I keep getting problems with sudden very large volume increases when I for example switch songs, it jumps to -12dB which is ehm quite loud...

 

[Antoine]

@Jupiter, thank you for informing us a new firmware version is available!

@Ekmanc, I'm using JRiver 18 on Windows and i have volume control disabled. (Options->Audio->Volume->Volume Mode->Disabled Volume). This is the JRiver recommended setting for bitfperfect playback. Also I've disabled all options in DSP Studio for processing like Volume Leveling, EQ, etc.

 

[Ekmanc]

@Ekmanc, I'm using JRiver 18 on Windows and i have volume control disabled. (Options->Audio->Volume->Volume Mode->Disabled Volume). This is the JRiver recommended setting for bitfperfect playback. Also I've disabled all options in DSP Studio for processing like Volume Leveling, EQ, etc.

Thank you I set it the volume to disabled now too but I still have the same problem that the volume all of a sudden increases to -12dB. It's not even every time I change a song but maybe one out of five and it always nearly gives me a heart attack

 

[Antoine]

Strange! Luckily I don't experience this same issue. -12dB corresponds to the maximum volume you get when you set the volume slider in Windows to maximum.

Do you experience the issue using the new 6.0.9 firmware or earlier versions (I myself haven't tested 6.0.9 yet). Did you restart JR MediaCenter or reboot the PC after setting volume control to disabled? Do you have set JRMC to use WASAPI, event style enabled and exclusive mode enabled? Did you also enable WASAPI in the Windows AIR2.1 driver?

 

[Ekmanc]

Strange! Luckily I don't experience this same issue. -12dB corresponds to the maximum volume you get when you set the volume slider in Windows to maximum.

Do you experience the issue using the new 6.0.9 firmware or earlier versions (I myself haven't tested 6.0.9 yet). Did you restart JR MediaCenter or reboot the PC after setting volume control to disabled? Do you have set JRMC to use WASAPI, event style enabled and exclusive mode enabled? Did you also enable WASAPI in the Windows AIR2.1 driver?

Yeap it's the max level in windows that it skips to automatically for some odd reason... And to answer your questions I have had this problem since I first started using jRiver with 6.0.7 and then 8 and now 9. I have all the settings set the way they should be as you mention in your post.