DS Audio Ionizer

I have the CS Port IME-1 and never tried any other product. As I have posted in other threads the CS Port IME-1 works amazingly well in my system. Living in SoCal static electricity and dust is huge problem due to dry climate and Santa Ana winds. The ultimate test for the IME-1 was during recent winds that were almost hurricane force. The IME-1 worked beyond all my expectations. Before when I would change sides it would sound and feel like the album was attached to the platter with velcro. With the IME-1 nothing, silence. I turn it on when I power up my TT and off when I'm done playing albums. As far as any noise or impact on SQ, none, but the IME-1 not on the same circuit as my system.
 
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i'm thinking of buying the DS ion but then I came across this gadget

it's 10 times cheaper
 
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i'm thinking of buying the DS ion but then I came across this gadget

the questions will be appropriate strength/proximity, coverage area and intensity. and is it designed to be turned on and left on for hours at a time? if left on for 3-4 records, 2-3 hours or so, will that drain the battery? how easy is it to change the battery? will that issue effect your use case?

secondarily how logistically reasonable will it work with your plinth and shelf as far as mounting and proximity? the reason i have both the DS Audio and CS Port is my two turntables (one with 3 arms) present different placement challenges.

i use the DS Audio ION one and the CS Port IME1 too. their coverage and intensity is appropriate for records and their beam covers the whole record section and there is a workable proximity range where they do the job that works for me.
it's 10 times cheaper
agree it's cheap enough to try and then throw in your tweak drawer with those other moon shot items that don't quite work. i have 5 or 6 static removal tweaks in my own drawer that i tried once.....or twice where the juice was not worth the squeeze.

hope you try it and it does work. good luck.
 
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i'm thinking of buying the DS ion but then I came across this gadget

it's 10 times cheaper
Really interesting. Shows you how obscene of a margin so many hifi companies make. There are big problems in this industry.

Looks like it will do the same thing, but you may need to experiment with how much coverage you get.

You don’t want it on during playback anyway,
 
i'm thinking of buying the DS ion but then I came across this gadget

it's 10 times cheaper
Try this, 1/6th the price, works great, can easily be positioned near the platter.

 
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Really interesting. Shows you how obscene of a margin so many hifi companies make. There are big problems in this industry.

Looks like it will do the same thing, but you may need to experiment with how much coverage you get.
hard to come to conclusions until it's found to actually work. and it just might. but the odds are against that. agree the potential is there for it to work.
You don’t want it on during playback anyway,
based on years of efforts, i disagree. and i do not hear any playback sonic degradation from my ion broadcasting.

no before play negative ion anti-static treatment as a regular listening regimen lasts more than 10-12 minutes. the effect fades. hence the Ion broadcasters. so for 33 rpm less than one side....normally about half. you can use 'creams and ointments', but they have limited value treating static and add to the 'junk' on your vinyl and stylus. a net loss. static is a constant to the spinning and playback process. it's not going away. and it's causing more dust to stay on your vinyl from each play unless you find a way to reduce it. proper negative ion broadcasting will reduce the tendency of your vinyl to attract dust. and seasonally can also reduce the likelihood of dangerous static charges which can do serious damage.

not saying that before play treatments don't work, but it's limited in time. maybe a just cleaned pressing done a certain way gets played all the way through on one side without static. but side 2 or next time it will have static. maybe for some that is good enough. cannot argue with that as a personal preference. but it's not for me.
 
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@Mike Lavigne did you by any chance left the DS on while the record was not spinning and noticed a dust buildup where the beam was focused?

I’m asking cause negative ions attach to airborne particles like dust, pollen, viruses and bacteria.
The charged particles then become heavier and fall out of the air.
 
@Mike Lavigne did you by any chance left the DS on while the record was not spinning and noticed a dust buildup where the beam was focused?
no. never. but it might have happened and i missed it. OTOH i do notice my records retain less dust now than prior to using my devices. these days i almost never need to reclean a record.
I’m asking cause negative ions attach to airborne particles like dust, pollen, viruses and bacteria.
The charged particles then become heavier and fall out of the air.
maybe.

a decade ago my PhD in Physics Son-in Law explained it to me this way when i asked him about this. when he was part of a large project (split between three University's) during his post doc work their team used a negative ion device (using constant broadcast) on the glass surface of the testing gear to improve the resolution of the readings. he said he thought the negative ions lowered the magnetic charge of the dust and the glass so there was a lowered tendency to adhere and build up. there will always be air born particles. but what do they do?

he added that their project did not address exactly why this effect occurred, that his 'explanation' was somewhat of a guess ("we don't exactly know why"). and if i wanted to fund a team to investigate further, he would look into it. then he smiled. his job later was with a state-side subsidiary of the Japanese Conglomerate Mitutoyo (running a lab team) creating and designing optical measurement devices.
 
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