Audiophile Hearing Aids

Well, thought I would revive this thread as I recently became a hearing aid patient. I had a hearing test conducted at the local Veterans Affairs office and they said after the procedure, well, you qualify for hearing ads….huhhhnnn?

I knew I had some loss from years ago, military training, deployments, artillery, gun fire, and loud as heck, being civil, jam session in the barracks and at home playing concert level rock music. Yeah, the audiologist also said it was my rigjt ear more so as when I shoot rifles, machine guns, my left side is farther away from the barrel and my right side is closer. So much for those 3M hearings protectors, those yellow squishy ones that now are known to not work at all. I think there is a class action against 3M now. Long story short, VA approved my hearing aids after the tests.

I went back to VA last week to get fitted and test the settings they had programmed into the hearing aids based on my specific hearing loss. There is loss on both sides, but right side is more.

The first thing the audiologist did was place them on my ears and insert the little tubes with what looks like a dome with a tiny speaker. She ran the initial fitting tests and did balance, tone, and speech clarity checks. While she was doing the tests, I took note that the hearing aids were Oticon Intent. I asked the audiologist about those hearing aids and she said VA has a contract with Oticon because the hearing aids have such a vast range which is beneficial for the military population that the VA serves.

The first thing I noticed that I could hear my voice in a different way. She said that was always what people heard mostly at first. Your own voice, lol. After that, conversation was just more crisp and balanced. I could hear more minute noises such as when the audiologist shuffled papers. After all the tests were done, she helped me download the Oticon app and showed me the settings in the app and user preferences, and she also said that these are the latest Oticon Intent with AI like sensors, increased sensitivity to the environment but with algorithms that sense how much the environment is affecting hearing and with this tech, makes the sound more natural for all environments. I asked about music, she said especially with music since it is so complex. These newer Oticon Intent hearing aids have an increased frequency range as too from 80-10000hz.

Of course after the long drive home and getting used to having things on and in my ear, what does and audiophile do? I warmed up the system and waited a little bit to warm it up. I was not sure what to expect with the first note. Oh man, I felt like my system played really well before, but with the hearing aids, I could hear more intimate and intricate details…more subtle things. Where before, I had to to turn it up to hear these details, now, I could play at a lower volume. All the notes were there and bass and cymbals were crystal clear. Spatial separation was just like before. So clarity is there without loss or musical experience; however, I did note that in some music the voices seems to be a little recessed until I turned it up. The audiologist did state that they did not want to adjust frequencies where I had good hearing and mentioned that I ever need to change a certain frequency range, I could use the burial in EQ. Guess want, I used the built in EQ and raised by 2Db the mids and the vocals I though were recessed were back. So, I guess it is possible that my particular hearing loss, I was used to playing the stereo so loud to hear the cymbals and finer sound that I was just overlooking vocals to get to that point. Not a hearing aid issue but a personal issue as one gets used to the real listening environment. Overall, the listening experience was greater, with far more information and subtle information with awesome spatial resolution. I think these hearing aide by Oticon are home run. These are my first ever hearing aids so can’t compare but I and more than enamored and happy with these. They don’t take away or detract from my listening pleasure and I can still play music as loud as I want without db limiting or whistling or whatever issues people may experience with hearing aids. The fact that they built in a smart neural processor that enables the listening environment to shine through, or be heard through by the user, is amazing. I am excited to have the ability to hear music in greater detail than before. It’s a whole new listening experience. I will be taking out records to just hear the music with these finer details in mind. The difference is not like night and day, but seems to me a more harmonious and increasing sense of finer details. As others stated, each person must obtain hearing aids which suit their particular needs. I think for my first set of hearing aids, I found my new way of listening.

A purpose-built processing platform​

With the Sirius chipset, hearing aid users get our most powerful and intelligent platform ever. Purpose-built for hearing aids, Sirius features our embedded, always-on, next-generation DNN 2.0. Its high processing capacity powers the groundbreaking technologies in Oticon Intent and Oticon Own SI(TM), and its future-ready specifications ensure Oticon Intent hearing aids can be wirelessly updated with our latest improvements.

Deep Neural Network 2.0 processing

Sirius is a brand-new platform with a chipset that’s purpose-built for hearing aids, complete with our embedded, second-generation DNN for advanced preservation of the original sound, better noise suppression, and more clarity.2

4D Sensor technology

Oticon Intent’s embedded motion sensor detects head and body movements while several acoustic sensors detect sound level, signal-to-noise ratio, and conversation activity. These enable Oticon Intent to combine the different inputs necessary to run the 4D Sensor technology paradigm.

Expanded frequency bandwidth

Sirius brings even lower hearing aid frequencies, with a bandwidth from 80 Hz to 10,000 Hz giving a fuller sound scene for a richer representation of the environment and a better experience when listening to music.

New intelligent miniFIT Detect speaker unit

Sirius supports the new self-calibrating miniFit Detect speaker units in Oticon Intent, which give increased convenience and assurance that your patients will experience precise gain every day while they’re out in the real world.

Future-proof Bluetooth® LE Audio

In Oticon Intent, Sirius supports the connectivity technology of the future: Bluetooth LE Audio, incorporating a standard audio codec for streaming data and sound to and from a variety of devices with greater power efficiency.

Cheers,
 
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Thank You for sharing this. Very interesting! Even though I have not gotten nearly to this diminished loss of hearing, it remains in the back of my mind. I'm also a Veteran (demolitions) and with all the weaponry, grenades, C4, automatic weapons, 50 cal., 60 cal., and those S---t earplugs we were given no doubt it can't be good. Then all the chainsaw work on my property. I am so careful now, even vacuuming the house I ware ear protection. Good luck man, and please do keep us posted as to how this continues to unfold. Also, thank you for the information for those who possibly can have hope...John
 
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Thanks for sharing your experience and I'm glad you are enjoying them. Great to hear a positive VA story.

I've been a rock musician on and off since I was 13, so my ears are pretty much shot. To make matters worse, I damaged my left ear in a water skiing accident decades ago. I started with Siemens Signia six years ago; not great. Then three years ago I upgraded to Widex Moment; much better. They help a lot with speech but are just okay for music even though they are advertised as musician's hearing aids.

Your Oticon Intent aids sound promising. Time for another upgrade next year and I'll check them out.
 
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I have a very good friend (neighbor) who is an ENT. He has a huge practice and with it an audiology clinic with 8 audiologists and speech therapists. He was telling me recently that there are huge strides being made in hearing aids and he went down the list of different mfrs and he said that in his opinion Oticon was the best of the best so good choice. He also told me they are so good (Oticon) that the audiologist can program in three different programs , one for background noise, one for noise in loud environments, and also "My music" so maybe ask your ENT to add the "My Music" program for you
 
Thank You for sharing this. Very interesting! Even though I have not gotten nearly to this diminished loss of hearing, it remains in the back of my mind. I'm also a Veteran (demolitions) and with all the weaponry, grenades, C4, automatic weapons, 50 cal., 60 cal., and those S---t earplugs we were given no doubt it can't be good. Then all the chainsaw work on my property. I am so careful now, even vacuuming the house I ware ear protection. Good luck man, and please do keep us posted as to how this continues to unfold. Also, thank you for the information for those who possibly can have hope...John
You are welcome. I was a forward observer when I was younger and sometimes I was dropped off in places close to the artillery weapons while they were firing….and after they paused, me, the recon team, and any SF support teams made our way past the FLOT to bury our heads in the sand or vegetation and support the infantry or SF teams. Of course, FO’s in this kind of situation always lived in a “danger close” environment. When we made our way past the battle tanks and howitzers and rucked 30-50 kilometers, hey, we were light infantry, so certified Mountain and Light Figher, we made sure that we stayed out of the observer target gun line as much as possible. We would call in close air support if needed. Yeah, some jobs in the military take a toll on your hearing that’s for sure.

I am glad that hearing aid tech is so much more advanced than prior years. It made the transition to wearing them much easier than expected. I think if you find yourself in the same situation where your diagnosis indicates the need for a hearing aids, don’t be shy, they only can help. Today’s hearing aids are vastly superior to previous generations. Thanks for your service too.
 
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Thanks for the information. My Widex Moments are now four years old and my insurance will pay for a new pair. I found the Widex Moment works best for music only in the PureSound setting, not the Music setting. Would like to see how the new Oticon compares. Larry
 
Thanks for sharing your experience and I'm glad you are enjoying them. Great to hear a positive VA story.

I've been a rock musician on and off since I was 13, so my ears are pretty much shot. To make matters worse, I damaged my left ear in a water skiing accident decades ago. I started with Siemens Signia six years ago; not great. Then three years ago I upgraded to Widex Moment; much better. They help a lot with speech but are just okay for music even though they are advertised as musician's hearing aids.

Your Oticon Intent aids sound promising. Time for another upgrade next year and I'll check them out.
You are welcome. Wow, you must have played rock music very loud. Is there any other way to play Led Zeppelin, Dokken, Rush, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Queensryche, . Sorry for your hearing loss and the water skiing accident which further damaged your left ear. I think the recent advances in AI technology, sensors, and speakers for hearing aids that have occurred since your last purchase 3 years ago might be something to explore. But, if it ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it. Not sure if hearing aid companies offer upgrade options. Might be something to explore if you're due for an evaluation anyway to see if your current loss is still the same or changed.
 
You are welcome. I was a forward observer when I was younger and sometimes I was dropped off in places close to the artillery weapons while they were firing….and after they paused, me, the recon team, and any SF support teams made our way past the FLOT to bury our heads in the sand or vegetation and support the infantry or SF teams. Of course, FO’s in this kind of situation always lived in a “danger close” environment. When we made our way past the battle tanks and howitzers and rucked 30-50 kilometers, hey, we were light infantry, so certified Mountain and Light Figher, we made sure that we stayed out of the observer target gun line as much as possible. We would call in close air support if needed. Yeah, some jobs in the military take a toll on your hearing that’s for sure.

I am glad that hearing aid tech is so much more advanced than prior years. It made the transition to wearing them much easier than expected. I think if you find yourself in the same situation where your diagnosis indicates the need for a hearing aids, don’t be shy, they only can help. Today’s hearing aids are vastly superior to previous generations. Thanks for your service too.
Fort Drum training? 3rd Infantry Division 10th Engineer Battalion for me. And also a lot younger, I was 19 going in and 22 when I came out. Still a pup! Not anymore. Yeah, those big guns rattle the hell out of you. I'm lucky, my hearing is still good, with so much collateral damage. I'm surprised they work as well as they do. Can't say that I blame you staying 30-50 klicks out of the Fireline, I need not tell you those coordinates can sway!

I wish you the best of luck. That programing sounds fascinating what @Steve Williams mentioned about MY Music "sounded" interesting. Stay well Brother...John
 
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I have a friend with hearing loss and tinnitus who recently tried out those Shokz bone conduction ‘phones’ in conjunction with his hearing aids and found a good combination effect.

Interestingly, he says live music sounds OK this way, but is disappointed when it comes to home Hi Fi.
 
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