Anyone still have CD/SACD Transport with Esoteric drive here?

#21
I also just ordered a SOTEM USBULTRA to be connected to my REF10 clock : ) ,,,, but do you feel that the SOTM switch is equally important ?
With USB connected to a server or computer, the switch or router is not important. These are only important if you connect them directly to the DAC or renderer using Ethernet cables.
 
#22
Good Day.....I have never owned the Mutec REF10 myself so not qualified to answer this but other owners report it to be a great 10 Mhz clock source and yes, if your choice were Mutec, this would be the best way to drive the Esoteric Transport and DAC as they both excel with a 10Mhz master clock input in my experience to an even higher level that using a 75-ohm word clock input (frequency multiple (of 44.1) reclocking up to my personal favorite with the new Esoteric equipment (for 75-ohm word reclocking, "MCLK" frequency which is 22.xxxx Mhz). Again, as well as my system has performed with OCXO and Rb-based clocks that put out 75-ohm word reclocking, the Esoteric gear performs best (IMHO and listening tests) with 10 Mhz 50-ohm true master clock input. Candidates for this would be the REF10 you mentioned, Cybershaft OP17 (or above) Limited2 or Ultimate from the new line of their products similar to what I am running or other high-quality, OCXO-based, low phase noise implementation.

BTW...by 'P2' I assume you mean the later generation Esoteric P-02 Transport and D-02 DAC (I have these) or the newer P-02X and D-02X, not the old Esoteric 'P2' Transport as I have no idea from those years about the 'P2' model.
Here are the Mutec test files comparing their different clocks. It's not a great test track, but I compared all of these and made notes. The Ref10 was the best sounding of the four IMO.

https://www.bonedo.de/fileadmin/Dow...10_D/Mutec_MC3Plus_und_Ref10_96kHzBounces.zip
 
#23
Empirical Audio, I recommend you to bring your creation to any highend audio shop with Esoteric transport drive. You don't need to own and test in your room. I used to bring my server and computer audio products I bought including yours to compare with ultra highend CD transport at shop.
I wish it were so easy. I live in the sticks and the nearest town 30 miles away has exactly one high-end shop, and they don't carry the best stuff. I was thinking about maybe selling some things through them, so I may try this in the future.

In the meantime, I have a few friends that may be able to bring over some transports at a meet this summer.
 
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#24
With USB connected to a server or computer, the switch or router is not important. These are only important if you connect them directly to the DAC or renderer using Ethernet cables.
I am actually going to be connecting the ethernet directly to the Streamer from the switch so maybe that might make some difference ,,
and then as for USB goes its probably going to be for server -> mutec mc-3 and then from there I am doing a SPDIF out to the DAC, : )
 
#25
I am actually going to be connecting the ethernet directly to the Streamer from the switch so maybe that might make some difference ,,
and then as for USB goes its probably going to be for server -> mutec mc-3 and then from there I am doing a SPDIF out to the DAC, : )
Then you can probably benefit from audiophile switch, audiophile Ethernet cables and isolator as well as the SOtM USBultra on the USB side of the server. If you do all of this, report back on what made a difference and how much
 
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Then you can probably benefit from audiophile switch, audiophile Ethernet cables and isolator as well as the SOtM USBultra on the USB side of the server. If you do all of this, report back on what made a difference and how much

It will make an improvement, as to how much will also depend on how far you are willing to go with the ethernet setup.

I treat is as a sub system especially if you are doing streaming for say, Tidal or Spotify etc.
It will also benefit if you have a NAS or intend to setup a NAS in future having all your physical media stored eventually.

The improvements possibly gained are much like your main system, where every little aspect such as isolation, power supplies and cables all add up to give a final results.

The improvements can be huge and if enough attention is spent on this infrastructure, streaming quality can even possibly surpass your spinning of cd's in some areas.
 
#27
My streaming already surpasses the spinning CD, and this is streaming Amazon Prime 256K MP3 tracks. Not as good as playing local .wav tracks though.
 

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I really like the Esoteric transports also, but they are not all the same. Try the P0s. Better than pretty much anything out there. :) And I've heard it against the newer top Esoterics and top Luxman. YMMV!
 

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