200G Brubeck Time Out....thoughts, anyheard it?
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I'm always looking for the very, very, very best sounding vinyl release of this title. From the original Classic Records re-issues I think I have at least three different versions already.
MikeL usually is best positioned to make these A/B comparisons and report conclusions.
MikeL usually is best positioned to make these A/B comparisons and report conclusions.
Thats has always been my quest is to get the cymbals right to me, lol, something is missing there.
I have that AP double 45rpm version. even though I like Bernie Grundman's mastering/vinyl cutting I can say that bass is a little bit emphasized and it's just a little bit soft sounding (due to the use of tube cutting amplifiers I guess).
as far as I know Classic Records issues were cut by Bernie Grundman and this AP reissue is better than those but since I don't own CR issues it's just a guess.
even though Bernie Grundman masterings are incredibly good but I rather like masterings from Ryan K. Smith at Sterling Sound, late Douglas Sax at TML or Kevin Gray and Steve Hoffman at Acoustech more.
for me Cohearent is incredibly good but not as good as Acoustech. sad to see it's gone.
thank you for the kind words Ron.
i'm super-happy with my (now over 20 year old) 4 disc 45 rpm single sided Classic Record version of Time Out; in this case, have never invested in other pressings. so i can't comment on how they compare. in other cases, these original Classic Records single sided version typically were the best versions for what that is worth.
i avoid any of these 'one-step' expensive versions of any of my early 45 rpm titles too. the tapes are now 20+ years older. my more music money goes for recordings i don't already have mostly.
this music is so great that you can't go wrong if you don't have a 45rpm version of Time Out already.
Do you like any particular track more in this album? Is it the drum that attract people to this album? Just pure curiosity.
You may be interested in this.........Time Outtakes
http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=112815
Nice, thanks! I preordered on Amazon.
As for Time Out, I have the Acoustic Sounds single sided 45 RPM version. It’s a nice release, but I wonder about this new one.
i like the whole album. a good listen. and it flows as an album. but it's a different flavor from other jazz due to it's time signature. so it has a different character. the tone of Desmond's alto sax is superb, all the playing is good and the recording is excellent. a well deserved classic all the way through.
for sure 'Take Five' is the gem.
its all about the drums to me, its an amazing product however on all levels, agree with Mike.
One of my favorite albums, I saw Dave Brubeck and sons with Joe Morello in the late 60’s in a small theater in Albuquerque NM. One of the best concerts I ever attended.
Joe Morello also has his own version of Time out, and its is a spectacular recording.. One of his best drum solo recordings I have ever heard.. Enjoy!
Joe Morello also has his own version of Time out, and its is a spectacular recording.. One of his best drum solo recordings I have ever heard.. Enjoy!
I saw him and his band (at the time) in the mid-2000’s at the Kimmel in Philly. The man was in his 80’s for Pete’s sake and it was probably the best jazz concert I’d ever been to in my life. He was like a young man on fire (well, on fire Brubeck style
). If I had closed my eyes I’d swear the man at the piano was 40 years younger. His last encore was Time Out. The entire audience went crazy. It was a night of perfection.
I was a senior in High school at the time I saw Brubeck.. The week before I attended a Led Zeppelin concert, which was my first one ever.. Then I saw Brubeck at this small old theater and my friend and I were in jeans and tatters while everyone else was in suits and dressed to the gills... We didn’t fit in, but I enjoyed Brubeck way More than LZ.. It was an intimate concert without shouting and distorted volumes... Only got to experience that a few times over the decades..
I have the original Classic Records 33 reissue and think it sounds pretty good. I would love to own an original mono pressing however, the best I've ever heard this album was in the High Water Sound room with a original mono pressing.
So I have great story to share about Time Out. Several years ago I had a party with various people, mostly my wife’s friends and none of them audiophiles. I was spinning records while we were drinking wine and one person, who i didn’t not know, asked to put on Take Five. We listened to the Classic Records reissue and he started weeping. He turned to me and said the last time he heard the song was with his late father at a live concert and it sounded just like that.
Audiophile dreams were fulfilled that night.
Audiophile dreams were fulfilled that night.
so just now i played side one of an early 'Time Out' mono pressing on the NVS<->Miyajima Infinity mono 1.0 mil. then side one of an early stereo pressing on the Saskia<->Etsuro Gold, and then both discs (that make up side one) of the 4-disc Classic Records 45rpm pressings on the CS Port<->Etsuro Gold with linear tracking arm.
first off; this is fantastic music. each version was amazing......more amazing than the previous one. the Stereo is overall more involving than the mono, although the mono (with the advantage of the active isolation under the NVS) did have superior bass impact than the stereo early pressing. otherwise the stereo just has more meat on the bones and is more real sounding.
but the 45 pressings are in another league here. more complete, more visceral, more compelling, more real.....it sweeps you off your feet. you could make a case that the mono and stereo pressings are slightly more focused......but that might be just cartridge, turntable and tonearm differences.
it was a tough job, but someone had to do it.
first off; this is fantastic music. each version was amazing......more amazing than the previous one. the Stereo is overall more involving than the mono, although the mono (with the advantage of the active isolation under the NVS) did have superior bass impact than the stereo early pressing. otherwise the stereo just has more meat on the bones and is more real sounding.
but the 45 pressings are in another league here. more complete, more visceral, more compelling, more real.....it sweeps you off your feet. you could make a case that the mono and stereo pressings are slightly more focused......but that might be just cartridge, turntable and tonearm differences.
it was a tough job, but someone had to do it.
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