How do fm acoustics' speakers and subwoofers sound?

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The 2022 Munich Audio Show showcased the full range of fm's audio equipment, as well as the new subwoofer ts-1. Can anyone who has been to the show comment on the sound of fm acoustics?
 

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Freaking good sound
Their speakers are just too mysterious. About the speakers with what units, speakers have any special design, etc., there is no information on the network. Only know that the back of the speaker has a supertweeter.
 

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Their speakers are just too mysterious

Nice isnt it .
As the speakers have a cloth in front i have no idea , but its the end result what matters

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What would you like to know? I am reasonably familiar with FMA electronics, less so with the speakers & the sub.

Generally speaking, the electronics including the phonos, equalisers, etc, are outstanding. FMA are probably the most satisfying amplifiers I have heard (which reveals my tastes!).
The overall result with the speakers at the Marriott was very good, but I find the speakers, good though they may be, very copious and complicated (you need a collection of amplifiers for the main spkrs, external equaliser / xover, additional amps for the sub...). Compared to the diminutive, practically sized and user-friendly electronics, the speakers look like they were designed for demo, not as much for home use!
 
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What would you like to know? I am reasonably familiar with FMA electronics, less so with the speakers & the sub.

Generally speaking, the electronics including the phonos, equalisers, etc, are outstanding. FMA are probably the most satisfying amplifiers I have heard (which reveals my tastes!).
The overall result with the speakers at the Marriott was very good, but I find the speakers, good though they may be, very copious and complicated (you need a collection of amplifiers for the main spkrs, external equaliser / xover, additional amps for the sub...). Compared to the diminutive, practically sized and user-friendly electronics, the speakers look like they were designed for demo, not as much for home use!
Thanks for the reply. Maybe it's because fm's philosophy is that speaker systems should be able to adapt to all environments, which is why there are so many complex components
I would also like to know if there is a mono rear stage of the model fm 2118? I've googled only a handful of pages that mention the 2019 fm release of the 2118 mono amplifier, and there is no mention of it on fm's official website. And by the data on these pages fm 2118 is actually a pair of fm 118 combined together.
 
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As far as i can read on their website the speakers are part of a complete music system.
YYes. But other than that there is no other introduction on the official website. I've read an interview with the owner of fm acoustics (probably a long time ago), in which he mentioned that he actually studied speakers for a long time, but has been unable to make a really good speaker in mind. Then he suddenly understood how a good speaker should be designed during a sailing trip, and then he went back and engineers developed the current xs-1, 2, 3. He said that the xs-1 (this year's Munich show should be xs-1) is so complex that it can not be mass-produced, a year to make a pair. The xs-2 and 3 seem to be much simpler to make, and the sound quality is not much different from the xs-1.
 

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I would also like to know if there is a mono rear stage of the model fm 2118? I've googled only a handful of pages that mention the 2019 fm release of the 2118 mono amplifier, and there is no mention of it on fm's official website.
Isn't the 2118 a mono amp? IIRC it's ridiculously powerful, hardly the kind of kit we need in our homes -- but I may have misunderstood.
 

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Isn't the 2118 a mono amp? IIRC it's ridiculously powerful, hardly the kind of kit we need in our homes -- but I may have misunderstood.
It is a mono amplifier. Only by looking at the parameters I feel that the 2118 is not a new independent model, it just represents two "fm118"
 

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None of their amps could be ridiculously powerful. Not unless it’s classD. None have large heatsinks. You can’t make power without dissipation. You can’t dissipate after the fact, you won’t get there.
 

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None of their amps could be ridiculously powerful. Not unless it’s classD. None have large heatsinks. You can’t make power without dissipation. You can’t dissipate after the fact, you won’t get there.
Presumably the claim of 1kW @ 8ohm load is a typo -- we should read 100W @ 8ohm?
 

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Unless that amp is really massively bigger than it looks, 100w would make sense. Squeezing 1kw would be beyond brief, unusuable, if possible. The rating is 500w RMS, actual output. It wouldn't be able to achieve that for more than a brief moment either. The heatsinks aren't exposed. They are not big.
 

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500 watts continuous 1000 W peak .

Probably a Class AB design

And they sound like it , i dont know the eff. of the speakers , but it was probably the most uncompressed dynamic/ fast sounding amp i ve ever heard , very fast attack /rise time, total speaker control .




Looks like they have internal heat sinks

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I am not commenting on sound, just impossible power ratings. Unless there’s a bunch of fans I don’t see…
 

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The entire rear 25% of that case is heat sinks by looks of it.
 

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