Omg. We all trust Emile and the Taiko team are thriving and simultaneously taking care of themselves! ha w caffeine, gym, otherwise. If email traffic is correlated w business, how incredibly exciting and to help fuel the ongoing projects. Really did not expect this level of sound quality improvement since the Extreme arrived 2 years ago. Been sitting in my seat captivated for the last 3 hours.
A top swich such as Melco S 100 and Buffalo BSGS 2016 are still giving a big SQ upgrade. Especially when used with top LPS as a power supply.That's curious that your sq became worse after the upgrade and now great after taking out your switch (which I take it you liked before the upgrade.). Would you share which switch this is?
My system is sounding great after the update. I did experiment with unshielded ethernet bypassing my Melco switch, but found I still prefer my old setup of:
modem/router > copper > Sonore optical > fiber > Melco switch > Sablon copper > Extreme.
There is many of us sticking with Switch.If I’m not mistaken, off the top of my head, I I can think of three other (Kris, Rapsody and AustinPop) sticking with there prior network set ups.
hope Emile is investigating it deeply for the future Tako device.
wow - don't forget my name on the list for both
cheers
1. Type of cable screening and how it affects stray currents between components
Hi EmileI have zero feedback on shielded cables with disconnected shields.
The upcoming network card and switch will include an interconnect, hence this can all be irrelevant to Extreme owners come end of May.
hi i know tomorrow send my taiko please remember the sfp.Hi Toni,
Congratulations on your purchase! I have a few Finisar SFP modules left. If you can have Hari let me know which order is for you I can include a pair.
Are these differences (fiber, switch, et al) all driven to improve sound quality on just streaming, or is it a "rabbit hole" for playing files resident on the Extreme as well?Alright, you all inspired me to calm (or scratch) my network neurosis...
With the latest OS update, I had compared my cat 6 run direct to the Extreme versus through my Edgerouter (w Nordost Qsource LPS) and M12 Gold switch (w Plixir Elite BDC LPS). When the Extreme arrived two years ago the added combo was a noticeable uptick in SQ. Fast forward to the latest install, I can barely tell a difference. Perhaps the slightest nod to the combo on certain tracks, but will need to do more critical comparisons to split hairs.
For the last hour, reran the comparisons and show my results in order of sound quality preference below. The differences are in the realm of marginal. Cost aside, which is hard to justify, I still have the slightest preference for the Edgerouter and the M12 in the chain. Tonal density, room pressurization and retained liquidity at high volumes are the main features that keep this preference at the top at the moment:
1) Modem (w/ LPS) -> 50' cat6 -> Edgerouter (w/ LPS) -> Sablon ethernet -> M12 (w/ LPS) -> Sablon ethernet -> Extreme
2) Modem (w/ LPS) -> 50' cat6 -> Extreme (close to the above with waaaay less in the chain)
3) Modem (w/ LPS) -> 50' cat6 -> Edgerouter (w/ LPS) -> ethernet -> Extreme (Was surprised this was my least favorite, but I attribute that to the ethernet cable bw the Edge and the Extreme, which may be a somewhat more harsh cable)
* all comparisons w/ Roon
Again, marginal differences, so I would not sneak down into this hole again and I can't wait for the other tech up the Taiko sleeve to cure some of us. All this said, the sound remains intoxicating.
I may have missed this (a lot to read through): will this network card be an option when ordering an Extreme or will it be standard for new orders once it’s released?The first batch of both covers all Extreme owners. No need to “signup”.
The network card and switch will stay exclusive to Extreme owners.
The router will be made available to non Extreme owners in a second batch as it will be very expensive to keep it exclusive due to significant development costs, there’s a lot to a router, security for example, it will be “extreme” in that area (best in class, certified and 5 years of active maintenance and security updates included). About a third of these costs will be distributed over the first batch for Extreme owners.
Another interesting feature we’re looking into implementing is to route your Ipad output through the router to the Extreme. That would enable streaming youtube video sound to your system amongst others. That part would however only work for Extreme / XDMS owners.
These will be extra cost options on top of the base priceI may have missed this (a lot to read through): will this network card be an option when ordering an Extreme or will it be standard for new orders once it’s released?