Audio Magic Nano-Liquid Fuses---mikey likey :)

[RBFC]

The danger is that if the audiophile fuses are not properly certified or have any ratings, they will be over-rated so that they don't blow. Imagine how many disgruntled customers there would be if you bought a $100 fuse, put it in and it blows the first time you turn it on. Then, if the fuse if over-rated for your application and it doesn't blow when it needs to protect your gear........

One of the reasons that I asked for basic measurements to assure that they meet spec....

Lee

 

[NorthStar]

-- Gary, very good, and important info you just provided us, yesterday (post #161).

 

[Orb]

Cooper Bussmann make some of the best fuses. Schurter is another brand that I trust for fuses. Even within their fuse families, you can find fuses ranging from $1 to $20 each, and it isn't the most expensive that is the best fuse to apply.

What is interesting is that Schurter offer an audio fuse (gold plated and described as audio purpose), also Schurter provide all the ratings-spec you ever want to see.
Downside though is that more information is needed to know if any of the other audio fuse companies are contracting Schurter for an OEM product.
But if specs worry then someone can try to buy the Schurter audio fuse, problem is I can only see a minimum of 100 fuses order, but this is balanced against a price of around 7 to 10 euros.
Although a pain when requiring multiple rated fuses.
Gary, any idea who the audio fuse companies OEM their product from? I have doubts they build them from scratch but I guess possible (maybe same way some audio cable companies can OEM spec-contract with original cable manufacturers - must emphasise quite a few do also manufacturer their own cable from scratch).
Cheers
Orb

 

[MarinJim]

Thanks Gary post for #168!

 

[Peter Breuninger]

This is a great thread. Thanks Gary for that very informative post. WBF remains the forum against which all others are judged

 

[garylkoh]

Gary, any idea who the audio fuse companies OEM their product from? I have doubts they build them from scratch but I guess possible (maybe same way some audio cable companies can OEM spec-contract with original cable manufacturers - must emphasise quite a few do also manufacturer their own cable from scratch).
Cheers
Orb

Sorry, I have no idea. I was just picking fuses to include in my product - not thinking of selling them for a profit.

 

[Speedskater]

I just saw an old thread about "Improvements To The VPI HW-16.5 Record Cleaning Machine" and using a HiFi Tuning fuse and how to orient it!

 

[microstrip]

I just saw an old thread about "Improvements To The VPI HW-16.5 Record Cleaning Machine" and using a HiFi Tuning fuse and how to orient it!

Speedskater,

The fuse orientation tweak is only relevant in the VPI HW-16.5, as it does not have a rotation direction switch - you can use the fuse orientation to control the platter rotation direction. In the VPI 17 you should use the switch to perform this function much easier. Only the fuses manufactured in full moon nights have this interesting property.
VPI do not list this feature in the 16.5 manual to oblige us to buy the 17 to have bidirectional cleaning. We should keep this secret only for the two of us - otherwise we will be asked to prove it.

Just in case someone is taking this seriously - END OF JOKE

 

[MarinJim]

Speedskater,

The fuse orientation tweak is only relevant in the VPI HW-16.5, as it does not have a rotation direction switch - you can use the fuse orientation to control the platter rotation direction. In the VPI 17 you should use the switch to perform this function much easier. Only the fuses manufactured in full moon nights have this interesting property.
VPI do not list this feature in the 16.5 manual to oblige us to buy the 17 to have bidirectional cleaning. We should keep this secret only for the two of us - otherwise we will be asked to prove it.

Just in case someone is taking this seriously - END OF JOKE

Seriously, just kidding, we need more jokes to lighten up the seriousness of our joking.

 

[Orb]

Forgot to post this.
Here is details on the Schurter audio fuse: http://www.schurter.co.uk/en/Compon...uses-Fuseholders/Non-Resettable-Fuses/SMD-SPT
And product/part numbers for the various ratings to identify in an electronics-electrical shop: http://www.schurter.co.uk/en/Stock-Check/e-Shop?MAKTX=SMD-SPT

I will probably be trying the AMR fuses myself, however if anyone finds a place selling the above Schurter fuses in quantities of 1-10 rather 100 minimum please post.
Cheers
Orb

 

[garylkoh]

You should be able to get them in single pieces from Digikey:
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dkse...oducts=0&ptm=0&fid=0&quantity=0&PV7=3&stock=1

However, please heed my warnings in post #161.

 

[Orb]

You should be able to get them in single pieces from Digikey:
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dkse...oducts=0&ptm=0&fid=0&quantity=0&PV7=3&stock=1

However, please heed my warnings in post #161.

Thanks Gary.
Although these and AMR should be fine because they provide the information you need to carefully match to manufacturer product requirement, and are certified-approved to a certain point.
The issue I see are nearly all the others that do not seem to have their spec and class easily shown, and also their approval.
And one oops from me, one point to mention as well is size as I highlighted only the 5x20mm Schurter - me bad.

Cheers
Orb

 

[garylkoh]

I should also note that according to Schurter, the only reason these are gold plated as opposed to their normal fuses is that they are designed to be flow-surface mounted, as well as used as a normal cartridge type.

As with all things audio, your ears will tell you if they sound better to you. I would also try other fuses. Depending on the care to which the original manufacturer chose the "correct" fuse, in your application they might not sound any better.

 

[MarinJim]

Gary, thank-you for your knowledge. Much appreciated.

 

[rockitman]

i got the fuses from Darin (club president) at Jaguar Audio Design, same place Andrew got his.

here is the actual site to order.

http://store.jaguaraudiodesign.com/audio-magic-liquid-fuses/

you choose the 'super' ($100) fuse with the drop down menu, not premium ($59). then enter the spec of your fuse....order, and pay with paypal thru the site. these are custom built to order, takes a few days and they get shipped back to Darin. i got mine in about 10 days.

if you are not local like Bruce, Darin would ship them to you directly.

Thanks Mike. My Preamp Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme blew today during a brief power outage. I just bought two of these Audio magic nano Super fuses for both the Preamp and Phonostage.

 

[edorr]

Thanks Mike. My Preamp Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme blew today during a brief power outage. I just bought two of these Audio magic nano Super fuses for both the Preamp and Phonostage.

I blew two Hi-Fi 's on my preamp in a week and gave up on them. They have been doing fine in my poweramp and conditioners for well over a year though.

 

[mep]

I know some of you feel these fuses *sound* great, but when I see the words 'magic' 'nano' and 'super' all in the name of a fuse, it kind of makes your BS detector peg the needle since fuses aren't nano, super, or magic in their operation. Somehow I doubt any EE would buy a fuse that used any of those descriptors in its title even if the magic nano super fuse was the same price as a non-magic nano super fuse.

It's also interesting that both Christian and Edorr blew Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme fuses in their respective preamps with Edorr blowing two in one week. Blowing one $100 fuse is a bitch. Blowing two of them in one week is a real super nano bitch.

 

[garylkoh]

If you're blowing a lot of fuses,your product might specify an IEC-rated fuse, and you are replacing with a UL-rated fuse. See my previous post.

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...-mikey-likey-)&p=176340&viewfull=1#post176340

 

[rockitman]

I know some of you feel these fuses *sound* great, but when I see the words 'magic' 'nano' and 'super' all in the name of a fuse, it kind of makes your BS detector peg the needle since fuses aren't nano, super, or magic in their operation. Somehow I doubt any EE would buy a fuse that used any of those descriptors in its title even if the magic nano super fuse was the same price as a non-magic nano super fuse.

It's also interesting that both Christian and Edorr blew Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme fuses in their respective preamps with Edorr blowing two in one week. Blowing one $100 fuse is a bitch. Blowing two of them in one week is a real super nano bitch.

My fuse was a bit over a year old that blew. Thought I would try the magic nano for kicks.

 

[mep]

Christian-Let us know what you think once you have the fuse installed and have listened to it for awhile.