Bill-Let us know how the LP sounds after you get it. If it sounds really good, it will be on my list since I lost my original copy long ago to a dog named Jason who loved to eat my LPs. Jason once ate a pair of steel toe boots I owned. I came home one day and the only thing that was left was the steel toes. I still have some "near misses" in my collection where he chewed a corner off of the cover of the LP but the LP itself is still mint.
Led Zep III- which pressing?
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Good to know, i read raves about some of the German pressings as well.
Anybody have any idea why Classic released in both 200 and 180g? The one I bought was 200, I'm a little concerned about that, because i had some Classics back in the day with stitching, as I have mentioned in other threads. Fingers crossed.
Where would you guys place Japanese vinyl in a quality shoot-out or line up with the audiophile products mentioned in this thread?
A couple of on-line comments quoted below for reference.
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1286946012&read&keyw&zzfor+the+records
A couple of on-line comments quoted below for reference.
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1286946012&read&keyw&zzfor+the+records
I've never been a fan of the Japanese reissues. First of all, they're pretty much all cut from safety tapes eg. they are a generation later than the original pressing. And tape generation is everything.
Two, all these Japanese reissues seem re-EQ'd to me for the Japanese market. Things are boosted, others are cut and the end result to me is less than satisfying.
I have 4 and something else that escapes me for the moment and I will compare them to Classic's versions. One thing for sure, on the Japanese pressings, they are more likely to be flatter and quieter virually devoid of any pops or other pressing defects found in the Classic series at times. I disagree about one gen. A safety master is pretty darn close to the master. I doubt our ear's can perceive any loss of fidelity with SOTA tape machines doing the dubs.
Generation is everything. The biggest difference after loss of S/N is in the low end. (which was demoed to me a few years ago by Tim de Paravicini.) Ask Rich
Moreso, do you think that these safeties were all made with care? Hardly.
Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
Generation is everything. The biggest difference after loss of S/N is in the low end. (which was demoed to me a few years ago by Tim de Paravicini.) Ask Rich
I agree with Christian.... you can take an original master and with a "good" transfer, make an undetectable safety.
The operative term Bruce is "good" transfer. If you want to hear an example of the effect of tape generation, compare an original RCA Living Stereo pressing of either LSC 1893 Daphnis and Chloe or VCS 2659 The Power of the Orchestra with the Chesky reissue that was made from a safety tape sent to the UK and cut by Tim de Paravicini.
agreed. there are exceptions, the early '90s toshiba/emi blue note reissues were universally excellent. around the same time king analog released choice sellections from the 6000 series decca/london classical catalog that were superb (all-tube remastered).
Side 1 of the 200 g Classic LZ III is very good, better than I expected, because I don't consider any of them to be 'audiophile' records, but it is not only quiet, it has dimension and doesn't sound thin or harsh. I'm still warming up the system so it is not cranked, and I can't comment on whether it has real bass. But, definitely worth buying if you don't want to sort through the thicket of pricier used records. Of course, I have no basis for comparison against those.
Report on side 2 as it happens.
Report on side 2 as it happens.
Side 2- buy the record. It's good, the acoustic stuff is really nice, I never listened to this record on a serious rig before, only heard it back in the day over crappy teenage stereos when it was released , and then on the radio or in background. I gave the system some gain on side two. It's a keeper. I found it on e-bay sealed for around 129. I have a good copy of Physical Graffiti, looks brand new, think it's on Swan Song but clearly looks like a reissue. Also probably have a good copy of Houses of the Holy but I'll have to check. Don't know the provenance. The copies of 4 i have are nothing special.
Not sure if I have Presence or Coda on vinyl, apart from select cuts from the Mothership compilation, so I'm open to recommendations....
Not sure if I have Presence or Coda on vinyl, apart from select cuts from the Mothership compilation, so I'm open to recommendations....
Bill-Glad to hear you are happy. I will put this LP on my list. I have three different copies of Jethro Tull "Thick As a Brick" tonight and I'm hoping one of the three will be good. I also bought the Classic reissue of Tubular Bells based on Myle's strong recommendation. I hope it doesn't conjur up memories of the Exorcist.
I have one of those CBS 1/2 Speed Masters of Bells, haven't listened to it in a while, i think it sounded bright, i'm sure the Classic is way better.
Right now, listening to Ry Cooder's 'Jazz' on a good 'ol WB 1978 standard pressing, what a nice record.
CBS 1/2 speed = 1/2 of what they should be
The Floyd Wish You Were Here album is arguably one of the best on CBS Mastersound. I enjoy it immensely.
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