What are the Top Horn Speakers in the World Today? Vox Olympian vs Avantgarde Trio vs ???

[Argonaut]

Living Voice Vox Olympian use Vitavox S2 paper compression driver and the sound is very emotional.
You can listen to Living Voice in UK , Kevin and Lynn are very lovely host.

Amir , The bass drivers utilise a paper cone , the mid horns utilise a chemically hardened aluminium diaphragm , the upper horn a diaphragm and former made from a single piece of vacuum deposited atomised Beryllium.

 

[bonzo75]

Living Voice Vox Olympian use Vitavox S2 paper compression driver and the sound is very emotional.

Very insightful. Is making me very emotional. So much reading of Romy led you to this?

Guess the upper vox olympian drivers of TAD 2002 and TAD tweeter are balancing your emotions?

 

[adrianywu]

We have a set of VOX Olympian with Elysian bass in Hong Kong. Anyone interesting in listening, please contact me.

 

[Amir]

Seeing as OP asked what are the top horns speakers in the world then one to add to the list is Cessaro Horns from Germany. Prices starting from €35,000 and go to well over €1,000,000 depending on the model.

Cessaro Omega I is around 5,000kg

 

[Amir]

Amir , The bass drivers utilise a paper cone , the mid horns utilise a chemically hardened aluminium diaphragm , the upper horn a diaphragm and former made from a single piece of vacuum deposited atomised Beryllium.

Sub 70hz is JBL bass paper driver (ported box)

70hz - 450hz Bass is paper Vitavox AK151
450hz - 5khz Midrange aluminium Vitavox S2 Compression Driver
5khz - 18khz Tweeter is Beryllium TAD2002
18khz - 45khz Super Tweeter is Beryllium TAD ET703


My friends listened to Living Voice vox olympian in UK and they liked it.

 

[Amir]

Very insightful. Is making me very emotional. So much reading of Romy led you to this?

Guess the upper of TAD 2002 and TAD tweeter are balancing your emotions?

Kedar, if you hate TAD Please remove bellow comment from your website.

 

[Amir]

TAD Reference D600/C600/M700/R1 Review 2022, Tehran Iran

before writing this review i would like to say for many reasons i do not like have only one audio system in my home. It is essential to me having two different Audio Systems. I have TAD Reference D600/C600/M700/R1 and I will buy CECTL0/Kondo/Living Voice Olympian . I do not sell non of them and...

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Why I like Both Living Voice and TAD

 

[Argonaut]

Sub 70hz is JBL bass paper driver (ported box)

70hz - 450hz Bass is paper Vitavox AK151
450hz - 5khz Midrange paper Vitavox S2 Compression Driver
5khz - 18khz Tweeter is Beryllium TAD2002
18khz - 45khz Super Tweeter is Beryllium TAD ET703


All are paper drivers except over 5khz.

My friends listened to Living Voice vox olympian in UK and they liked it.

https://www.livingvoice.co.uk/interview-kevin-scott-vox.html

“Q: What about the drive units?​

The Bass driver is a 15” unit with a powerful 6kg Al Ni Co magnet assembly and a stiff, light conical paper diaphragm. This driver is loaded through a complex faceted phase plug into the throat of the folded exponential bass horn.
The Mid driver has a powerful 6kg Al Ni Co magnet structure to control a 75mm chemically hardened aluminium diaphragm with integrated former onto which the voice coil is wound. The diaphragm loads to the 300Hz mid-range radial exponential horn through a complex radial phase plug.
The HF driver uses a powerful Al Ni Co magnet structure and a complex phase plug. The diaphragm and former are made from a single piece of vacuum deposited atomised Beryllium. This is a very high tech process that allows the production of a diaphragm with vanishingly low mass and remarkable stiffness and it allows the 48mm diaphragm to operate up to 22kHz.
The Super HF driver uses a powerful Rare-earth cobalt magnet structure, a 35mm vacuum deposited atomised Beryllium diaphragm loaded through a complex radial phase plug into a slot dispersive horn. This unit operates up to 45kHz.”

 

[Amir]

Here is an interesting Q&A with Kevin of Living Voice RE: Vox Olympian. Question there about materials choice FYI.

Personally I like the tone of the Olympian albeit a touch too sweet which is probably because I heard with a lot of Kondo. It sounds natural enough to my ears though. Nothing synthetic about it.

Q&A Designer Kevin Scott | Vox Olympian | Living Voice

Designer Kevin Scott explains his motivation, objectives and key decisions in the development of the Vox Olympian Horn Loudspeaker System.

www.livingvoice.co.uk

Thank you Bill

 

[bonzo75]

Kedar, if you hate TAD Please remove bellow comment from your website.

Sorry, when did I say that - I was sarcastically pointing out to you incorrectly talking about only Vitavox S2 "paper" drivers causing the emotion.

 

[Amir]

Hi David,

I have huge admiration for the Vox Olympian in terms of the fit and finish together with the passion put into creating them. I have heard them only once before at Munich where they were playing with a full Kondo rig. Music was mainly very carefully selected stuff - some audiophile jazz and some Mozart small scale. The sound I heard there was warm, full and engaging. It was slightly too saccharin for me but I am fairly certain that is the partnering gear not the speakers themselves. I say that because Bonzo had heard them that same year but also another year with a VDH cart where they sounded much better.

In terms of the speaker execution and design. I love the Al151 and s2 drivers from Vitavox. The veneering of the beech multiplex and high gloss lacquer are executed at first rate.

Thank you Bill

It seems the best demo was in munich 2014

 

[Amir]

Sorry, when did I say that - I was sarcastically pointing out to you incorrectly talking about only Vitavox S2 "paper" drivers causing the emotion.

This is link from your weblog :

Dohmann Helix 1, Schroeder CB + My Sonic Labs, Kuzma 4p + Goldfinger Statement – Zero Distortion

zero-distortion.org

 

[Amir]

https://www.livingvoice.co.uk/interview-kevin-scott-vox.html

“Q: What about the drive units?​

The Bass driver is a 15” unit with a powerful 6kg Al Ni Co magnet assembly and a stiff, light conical paper diaphragm. This driver is loaded through a complex faceted phase plug into the throat of the folded exponential bass horn.
The Mid driver has a powerful 6kg Al Ni Co magnet structure to control a 75mm chemically hardened aluminium diaphragm with integrated former onto which the voice coil is wound. The diaphragm loads to the 300Hz mid-range radial exponential horn through a complex radial phase plug.
The HF driver uses a powerful Al Ni Co magnet structure and a complex phase plug. The diaphragm and former are made from a single piece of vacuum deposited atomised Beryllium. This is a very high tech process that allows the production of a diaphragm with vanishingly low mass and remarkable stiffness and it allows the 48mm diaphragm to operate up to 22kHz.
The Super HF driver uses a powerful Rare-earth cobalt magnet structure, a 35mm vacuum deposited atomised Beryllium diaphragm loaded through a complex radial phase plug into a slot dispersive horn. This unit operates up to 45kHz.”

You are right, the midrange driver is AL

 

[bonzo75]

This is link from your weblog :

Dohmann Helix 1, Schroeder CB + My Sonic Labs, Kuzma 4p + Goldfinger Statement – Zero Distortion

zero-distortion.org

I think you are massively confused between TAD the speaker and TAD the drivers used in horns, such as 2001, 2002, 4001, 4003, and the TAD ET 703 tweeter used in Cessaro and Vox Olympian. But then you were confused between Vitavox "paper" and aluminium, so that's fine. I don't like TAD the speaker. I like TAD the horn drivers.

The above is a TAD speaker write up, and a polite visit report. The TAD 4003 drivers in Leif's system, reiterated repeatedly on the forum for 4 years since the visit, was quite a stellar system. Not sure what you think you keep pasting.

 

[Amir]

Kedar,
I never confused between TAD Be compression drivers and TAD speakers.
It is funny you think I confuse big 150kg speaker with small 3kg driver!

If you are trying to hide your wrong idea about TAD speakers then your weblog and WBF shows us your contradiction.

 

[bonzo75]

Kedar,
I never confused between TAD Be compression drivers and TAD speakers.
It is funny you think I confuse big 150kg speaker with small 3kg driver!

If you are trying to hide your wrong idea about TAD speakers then your weblog and WBF shows us your contradiction.

Why are you then cut pasting my comment on TAD speakers when I am mentioned TAD drivers in the context of Vox Olympian? I have been a proponent of TAD in horns for ages.

In fact I thought on your first cut paste you must have used the ZD part from Leif's article, then I realized it is from older TAD speaker visit at TZBC, which was totally irrelevant to the conversation.

 

[Amir]

Why are you then cut pasting my comment on TAD speakers when I am mentioned TAD drivers in the context of Vox Olympian? I have been a proponent of TAD in horns for ages.

I did not say you do not like TAD Be drivers, you posted many comments in WBF that shows you like TAD Be drivers, I refered to your positive review about TAD R1 speaker (in your weblog) and your negative comment about TAD R1 speaker in WBF.

This is paradox.

 

[Amir]

Very insightful. Is making me very emotional. So much reading of Romy led you to this?

Kedar,
I do not know why you like post non-sense comments about me and Romy?!!!
Admin closed my topic (Audio Critique) for your off-topic.

no need to spread negative energy when you have no informative idea.

I think most members prefer WBF to be positive space not like negative ASR forum. It is simple , just respect all members and avoid spreading negative energy.

 

[bonzo75]

I did not say you do not like TAD Be drivers, you posted many comments in WBF that shows you like TAD Be drivers, I refered to your positive review about TAD R1 speaker (in your weblog) and your negative comment about TAD R1 speaker in WBF.

This is paradox.

How was TAD R1 speaker relevant to the discussion. It was to you because you confused it with the TAD drivers for Vox

You should be able to read between the lines, instead of taking articles in isolation. My Sigma MAAT visit to the same person says "Toni had since replaced his TADs with the Sigma MAAT Orchestra (I never liked the TADs),"

Whether you read me or anyone else, read across posts and articles. See if what someone likes continues to be repeated, or not.

 

[Argonaut]

The above is a TAD speaker write up, and a polite visit report. The TAD 4003 drivers in Leif's system, reiterated repeatedly on the forum for 4 years since the visit, was quite a stellar system. Not sure what you think you keep pasting.

Leif’s decision in replacing his previous Autotech horns with his current profile pair sporting his TAD 4003’s was an excellent move on his part , an evolution if you will … imho.